Transcript 0:00 [electronic music] We're gonna help get baby out. Okay, guys. 0:12 It's time to get a little energy for the night, and I gotta make sure that I'm drinking some water, so we're just gonna try and bang them both out at the same time. Today I'm going to be reviewing Hydro Rush. 0:25 Time to get up, start moving. Gotta reach out and grab my Crypto Rush from Hydro Rush. Let's go. We've gotta get this generator started, and we're gonna need the energy to do that and to go exploring. Five set, bam. 0:40 Give this a taste test. Um, I mean, you gotta rush it. You know, you're not a rusher. Cheers, fam. [upbeat music] Some creatine. Okay. You guys have magnesium in here, 66 milligrams. 0:56 Sodium, sea salt, 1,000. All right, that's pretty high. You got some potassium, keeps you nice and invigorated, keeps your bones and your joints going good, muscles from cramping up. And then creatine. 1:10 Um, a lot of people have been telling me about creatine, you know, um, very good things from, uh, from the weight training community. Yeah, let's see how this tastes. Okay. Not bad. All right, this is Hydro Rush. 1:23 What is the one thing, Riven, that you find with people when you talk to them about survival? Mm-hmm. What's the one thing that you feel like they're missing? They're missing? Mm-hmm. Is that sense of adventure. 1:35 Adventure. Mm-hmm. Tell me more about that. What does adventure mean to you? Adventure means getting out into nature itself and having that excitement of, you know, near-death kinda feel. Mm-hmm. 1:44 But they don't wanna go for, like, a skydiving event. Hmm. So it's more of just, you know, being in a moment where it's something... It's a story you can tell other people that you did. Mm-hmm. 1:53 You know, when you say survival, it's that hype. Hmm. So that's pretty much where that comes from, yeah. I love that. So you're branding yourself as a survival guide and coach. 2:01 Is that still a thing, or are we rebranding? We are kind of rebranding that right now. Um- Share with me. Share with me. Yeah. So- What's the rebrand? I, I wanna hear it. [laughs] Oh, it's excellent. 2:09 So we're s- I'm stepping away from the survival training right now. Okay. Of course, that's still a bit of a part of what I'm doing. Okay. 2:15 But what I'm doing is I'm giving men this, this outlet to have these adventures with me, you see? Hmm. So I turned it inwards, and I was like, "What do I want?" You know? Mm-hmm. 2:24 And I wanna have these traveling experiences and more of what I did to become who I am, which was, you know, going to survival training. Uh, [laughs] 2:32 multiple str- you know, different aspects of training is what I did, and finding that confidence in myself, having the stories to tell. 2:40 In fact, I told stories of what I've done to people, and they're like, "Yeah, dude, you're lying." I'm like, "That's what I want." I want people to have stories where other people think it's a, a joke, it's a lie. Hmm. 2:50 Um, but it's your reality. Yeah. And the reason they feel that is because they haven't had that yet. So what I'm doing is I'm opening it up to other men. I want them to come with. 2:58 We are losing too many men for so many reasons, and I want them to have that life back, that reason for living, and that connection with other men, even when it comes to success in business or just camaraderie- Hmm... 3:10 those things. That's survival to me, because you're helping people survive their situations. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and let's go back to that real quick. 3:16 Why do you feel like men are losing their sense, I guess, of manliness or adventure? Societal, uh, programming. Oh, okay. And I'll just say it flat out. Sure. You know? Yeah. 3:27 We're, we're trying to live up to everybody else's expectations. Mm-hmm. And all those expectations are what benefit other people. Mm-hmm. And I, I just don't agree with it, you know? Right. 3:38 We have to really have our own expectations of ourselves- Mm-hmm... reach up to those, and then we can give that back to other people. I see. Yeah. I see. 3:47 It's a fulfillment in you first before you give away, 'cause everybody's trying to give, give, and give, and you're giving from an empty cup. Mm-hmm. Then you wonder why you're depleted. 3:54 You wonder why nobody's giving back to you when you should've been doing that in the first place. Right. Yeah. Do you feel like people give or men give too much? Do they give too much? No, I mean, we're... 4:08 I mean, we're a giving species. That's, that's a thing, you know? Mm-hmm. When I say give, we even make sacrifices as heroes. Right. You know, whether you're a veteran or whether you're a firefighter, police, whoever. 4:20 Course we give. Yeah. But we never give back to ourselves because we're so sacrificing to ourselves to everybody else, even our families. Mm-hmm. 4:27 And then we become resentful because we've given so much, and it's like, it's almost taken for granted and expected because we've done it for so long- Mm-hmm... 4:35 that we really need to turn, not pushing our families and stuff away, I'm not saying that, but turn inward, give ourselves what we need. 4:43 And, you know, amongst o- one another, those, those moments where we can actually share either our pains or whatever and then regroup, go back in the world, and face what we need to. 4:53 We're facing a lot of things by ourselves, and we have nobody to go to because when we do, it's thrown in our faces. Mm-hmm. I mean, so do we give a lot? Yes. Are we getting back, giving or getting stuff back to us? 5:07 Very little from what I see, but we need to start with us doing that for ourselves first- Hmm... to show that we have that value. Yeah. That's really important. That value- Mm-hmm... 5:17 is what's gonna take us further in life and actually give us what we eventually want, too. Right. Yeah, no- Yeah... I get that. And I know a lot of men struggle with finding that value, finding that self-worth. Yeah. 5:29 So share with me, like, where... When did you have this awakening of your self-worth? Where did you find deep down inside you of like, "Oh, this is my path. This is my North Star. This is what I wanna be doing"? 5:43 Because you weren't like this your whole life- No... I assume, right? So where- At all... So bring me back to a younger Riven, I guess- Yeah, yeah... you know? 5:50 And, and share with us the story of how this kind of all got started. Yeah. I mean, uh, I grew up in a family who had a lot of financial struggles and all. Hmm. Um, my dad was military. He was Army. 6:01 My mom, you know, took care of us as we were kids. Yeah. Great family. Yeah. And it was always the bullying at school and whatever, you know. I had, uh, asthma as a child. Mm-hmm. Oh. 6:11 And it was so bad that I had four asthma pumps on, on a fanny pack, and if I exercised or if I was playing too hard, it would throw me into the hospital. Oh, wow. So what, I mean, what can you do? 6:22 You're eating Puerto Rican food and, uh, Indian food, right? Or Native American food, and- Sounds so good. [laughs] Dude, it's the best. And see why it happens? 6:29 [laughs] Uh- Um, but then again, you're starting to play video games because you can't do much else. You gain weight. Mm. Then you get bullied. You stay in a weak state. Yeah. Um, and you're trying to live up... 6:38 Well, at least I was. Mm. Was trying to live up to everybody's expectations to be liked, a people pleaser, you know? Yeah. Because I felt shunned. Mm-hmm. Couple times, first time, uh, I pulled a gun on myself. 6:50 Uh, I pulled the trigger, but the secondary safety was on, and it's a Taurus 24/7. Wow. That saved my life. Wow. Uh, second time was with food. 7:00 I got up to almost four hur- 400 pounds, and, uh, before I was gonna go out, you know, I did... I was gonna do it that way so people thought, "Oh, he just, the weight got the best of him." Mm. 7:11 But, uh, before I went, I was like, "You know what? To hell with money, what people think. I wanna go out for what I want." And becoming a survival instructor, just having those skills, was really what I wanted. 7:22 I wanted to learn more about that. Yeah. So I took the, that, uh, that training back when COVID hit. Mm. Of all times. Yeah. So, 7:30 but every day I was out there, I was happy, and I was living life, and I was learning these principles of survival. 7:35 And as I was learning them, the, when, you know, when it comes to the wilderness, I was learning them about myself when it comes to just do I wanna live right now? Mm. And 7:45 I, after all that, I became a survival instructor, and everybody talking to me with respect and love and telling me how great of a teacher I am. And I said, "Wait a minute. 7:55 So you're telling me once I follow what I wanted and let- gave myself my own expectations, everything that I wanted before is now here?" 8:04 So instead of living up to other people's expectations, yes, why would you respect that? Mm-hmm. I respected myself enough and ga- gave myself that self-worth of I deserve to learn these things. Mm-hmm. 8:14 And everybody else saw it. In fact, other men come to me a lot, and they're like, "Dude, what you do is amazing. I would love to do that kind of stuff." Mm. 8:21 Even when I was, uh, trained in the military, uh, with, uh, the school that I was with. Mm-hmm. They, they would come to me, and they were like, "Dude, we're excited. Man, you're, you're so badass. You're cool." 8:33 And I'm like, "These, these guys are the real deal." Mm-hmm. And they're coming to me, who I thought who I was less than- Mm... and saying, "You're badass." Mm. And I was like, that's, that felt good- Mm-hmm... 8:45 to have somebody else recognize that in me when I didn't. Mm-hmm. So how can I give that back to other men who have that? Because you see it in our eyes. Mm-hmm. You know, we need that. 8:54 So that was when I found that self-worth, and I was like, "Okay, it's my mission to find other men like this to give them the same thing." Mm. Not to tell them how to do that- Right... 9:03 but to have the experience with them, to guide them. That's why I say, "I'm not coaching you. I'm not telling you what to do." Right. "We're going together." Right. That's why I say, "Take, let's take this path together. 9:11 I'm not leaving you behind. It's a rescue mission." I'm not gonna say, "Oh, yeah- Yeah... we came to rescue you. Path out that way." Right. Right. I think, yeah, it's good to be affirmed, right? Mm. 9:21 Affirmation's important, but also in your past, it sounds like you had a lot of self-loathing. Yeah. And, um, not once but twice suicide. 9:31 Like, that's really deep, and I'm just like, I, I don't wanna make light of that either. Mm-hmm. But it's like that second attempt, right after that, like, what, like, what prompted you to 9:45 get an ex- like, uh, have that awakening, I guess? Like, like, why wasn't there a third attempt, you know? It's like- Yeah... 9:50 what, what, what made, what made that second attempt so different from the first attempt to get you where you're at today? I can tell you the exact moment. Mm. So before I went to become a survival instructor- Yeah... 10:01 I, I'd been, you know, reading and watching things on the secret law of attraction and all that stuff. Sure. 10:05 And I really started visualizing, and made the decision, the key, made the decision to become a survival instructor. Okay. Okay. 10:13 Most people, we try to wish and wait for things to come, but I was like, no, whether- Mm-hmm... the universe is gonna give it to me or not, I'm doing it. Right. It's that decision. Right. 10:21 So, um, the visual that I had in my mind was me laying in front of a fire- Mm... on the ground, enjoying the night. 10:29 It wasn't until the last seven days of that survival training, I was laying on the ground in front of that same very fire just thinking about, "Oh, my gosh, I just manifested this." Mm. "And I'm happy." 10:42 So if I manifested me being in front of the fire and doing these things and making that decision, what else could I do? Mm. So I was like, "Well, what's the next step? 10:50 I'm gonna become an EMT so I can become better medically for the students out there." Mm-hmm. Became a, an EMT. Mm-hmm. 10:58 One decision I made that was really kinda weird was I said to myself, "I wish there was something I can do where I can go back and become either a soldier in the military or some kinda boot camp. 11:08 God, help me find a place where I can do this." Mm-hmm. I had a conversation with the fire chief of Palmer Lake, and he was like, "Would you be interested in becoming a firefighter because of what you do? Mm. 11:19 I think you'd be great in wild land." Yeah. I was like, "Sure, I, I can give it a try." I went through the fire academy, dude, and that's exactly what I needed. 11:26 'Cause I needed to find that courage is really what I was looking for. I needed to know I was a courageous man. So survival instructor, it was those moments of manifestation. Mm-hmm. 11:35 I manifested the EMT side of it, and I manifested meeting the fire chief to become a courageous man- Mm... which is really what I was looking for. 11:44 The, the next one I did was I wanna be a multimillionaire because I wanna be able to help other people. Huge. So you- Love that... who did I meet? Uh, Achieve Systems and Robert Reymond. Mm-hmm. 11:55 So I'm on my path to doing that now. Yeah. But you see how that comes about. So it was that, that very moment that changed me was the moment in front of the fire- Yeah... where I knew I could do this. 12:03 So why not paint and make a life for myself that's worth living? It's really what it comes down to. Right. Right. And so that's your new beginning story- Yeah... and that was your self-awareness. 12:13 That was like a spiritual awakening for you, so to speak, right? That's right. So, um, and I love that it... A- and, and you sound very aligned. [laughs] With your purpose, with your vision, you know, like- Right... 12:25 it's like it's, it's all falling together. Mm-hmm. It's taking time, but I don't mind because that's part of the process. Mm-hmm. Right? Like, it's like, it's not the destination, it's the journey- Mm-hmm... 12:35 that we all talk about- Yeah... all the time. So share with me more about the types of men that you're wanting to serve. Okay. Um, or how, how are they struggling in life? Like, how can you help them? 12:50 What problem are you solving for them? Sure. Um, it's that feeling of being lost. Mm. And it's very difficult to describe in some sense. 12:57 And I mean, with marketing and stuff, I've been trying to work on the wording with that. Right. If I could turn it into myself real quick and say what I was and what I was looking for, I was lost. Mm-hmm. 13:07 Uh, I felt under- underappreciated. I felt like I needed more in life. I had a, uh, a bigger calling. Yeah. 13:13 Those are the type of men I'm looking for, you know, those who carry the pain and the sadness, and I've, I've worked with them and I've seen them, and I've worked alongside them. 13:22 We're all out there, but I know you guys have that. Mm. And you are the guys I'm looking for. 13:27 If you feel you've been successful, even then, I mean, you've made millions of dollars, but you still feel like you're missing those pieces- Right... those who are, I'm trying to find. Mm-hmm. 13:35 And it's sincerely a rescue mission. Yeah. Because, like I said, there's so many people, including myself, who tried to harm themselves and don't know how to get out of there or get out of that lost situation. 13:46 It's that inner world kinda lost. Right. And I have the ways of actually finding those pieces that you're looking for, connecting you with the people that you need to do the same thing I did. 13:56 Maybe survival's not your thing, and it doesn't have to be anything masculine. Mm-hmm. I knew a guy who was doing, uh, who had a, uh, an interest in knitting, dude. Hmm. 14:06 And I said, "Oh," you know, [laughs] as guys we were like, "Oh, really?" But I kept an open mind, and what he was doing was making like little Spider-Mans and stuff, and he would sell those to kids. Yeah. 14:16 Because he was making like Marvel superheroes and stuff. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah. For sure. Yeah, but that was his thing. But he- That's cool... that's what he wanted to do. 14:21 But he found a purpose in giving them back to- Yeah... the kids. And I was like, "That's... See, that's what it's about." Mm. But it- when he talked about it, and the skills and all, he... 14:29 it was like, "You are really into this." Yeah. "This is where you're supposed to be." I got it. So I could never judge that, although I did. I'm human. Mm-hmm. You know? Right. At first I was like, "What?" 14:38 But then I saw it and I was like, "That's beautiful." Mm. Once I seen the beauty in myself, I can now recognize the beauty in others, and now I know why God loves you so much. That's what I tell people. Yeah. 14:48 When I saw that, I was like, "Dude, you keep going with that. Your heart's right. Like, we need that." So. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's good to see people doing what they're meant to do. Yeah. Their purpose, right? 14:59 And I've always seen that to show up as your authentic self. Mm-hmm. When we talk about authenticity too, um, what comes to mind when it comes to building, let's say, your brand or building yourself up? Mm-hmm. 15:14 Um, when people say, you know, it's like, "Oh wow, I watched your video and it felt really authentic." Hmm. 15:20 And I know that's a really good feeling when someone comments or appreciates you, but like, what does authenticity mean to you? Mm. And how does that show up for yourself in everyday life? 15:30 Authenticity means to me that you're showing that inner expression outward. Mm. And that's, I mean, yeah, that's kind of cut down, but- Yeah... if we go into the, the inner wilderness, let's say- Yeah... 15:42 you're gonna find those pieces that you loved in other people or you admired in other people, okay? Mm-hmm. So let's say for example, we'll do this right now with you. Sure. Because you could do this. 15:51 I mean, this is what we've been doing since we were little when it comes to like superheroes, and I take people back to that time. Yeah. Those superheroes were charismatic, courageous. Mm-hmm. 16:00 And you're like, "Man, I wish I could be like that," right? Right. Well, the fact of the matter is, those are parts that you're supposed to be. Mm-hmm. That's why you admire it. You're mirroring it, right? Right. 16:08 So when I see somebody like you and I see, let's take for the marathons for example, and then of course me being overweight, right? Mm-hmm. When I see that, I'm like, "Dude, this guy's getting up every morning. 16:17 He's putting in the discipline," and I see that. And as soon as I said discipline, my heart skipped a beat. Mm. 'Cause it's showing me that you admire that in him because I have it in me. Mm-hmm. But you just... 16:29 I just haven't lived up to it. Mm. You see what I mean? Yeah. So it's those pings where it's like, oh, then, you know, if you see that in somebody, you're... that jealousy kind of thing sometimes, that's also a cue. Mm. 16:39 They're doing something that you are supposed to be doing, you just haven't lived up to that yet. Mm. But you can admire that. Right. 16:45 You know, you can say like, "This guy has an amazing smile when he talks to people, the way he speaks to people. I wanna speak t- to people like that as well." Yeah. Where you're supposed to be. So- Mm... 16:54 then you talk to somebody and say, "How can you be so charismatic, Donald?" Mm. "How can you be so happy and smiling and get up in the morning? Show me that because- Mm... there's something in me that's calling to that." 17:04 Yeah. "And I need your help." Hmm. See the difference? I do. But when we find that in ourselves and we find that in other people, that's our authentic self trying to show itself. Right. 17:14 Even now in front of the camera, I'm not used to it as much. This, to me, doesn't feel too much as authentic. Mm. But it's a present- uh, a presentation of who I am- Mm-hmm... expressing, right? Right. 17:26 Authentically, I'm a caring, loving person. Yeah. You know? And that's what I wanna get out there. That's what I wanna say to everybody out there, you know, men and all, that we... you need this, you need other people. 17:38 Mm-hmm. Especially in this lone wolf mentality like I have. Right. Yeah. I need people as well. I may not be hanging around them all the time, but authenticity really comes from the inner world. Mm-hmm. 17:48 It's trying to express itself. Let it- Right... and be okay with it without thinking of other people's judgments. Right. Be who you're supposed to be. Right. Um, it's not giving a performance. 18:00 It's not giving a performance. Although- Mm... it's gonna feel like that in the beginning because you haven't truly expressed that, and your subconscious is gonna try to bring you back to that old version of yourself. 18:10 Mm-hmm. So it's gonna feel fake at first. Right. But let it be Truly speak to somebody and express who you are. Mm-hmm. I care for this person. I am this person. And then eventually it'll start coming true. 18:23 I mean, if you see pictures of me in the past and the way my facial features look and all- Mm... and how I talk to people- Yeah... totally different. Oh, yeah. 18:29 To me, it felt like a performance at first until my body was like, "Oh, this is you. Yeah, let it out." Yeah. That was a big thing for me. Yeah. I think it's just keep showing up for yourself. Keep showing up. Yeah. 18:39 'Cause a lot of people, they just like... Even if you don't wanna do it, just do it- Yeah... 'cause you're gonna feel better after. [laughs] Especially like I still struggle with going on my runs consistently. Mm-hmm. 18:49 Uh, full transparency, I did not run this morning. James, I knew. Even though I wanted to. I know, right? [laughs] 'Cause but I did do some calisthen- you know, pushups, whatever- Yeah... 18:56 some pull-ups, some deep stretches, some yoga stuff. You know, I still was active in the morning because that's part of my morning routine because I've established a daily habit. Mm-hmm. 19:05 And I know habits are the foundation for building a better life. Yeah. 19:10 Um, and having great habits, um, and consistently showing up for yourself so you can show up for others has taught me in huge ways of if I wanna do anything really great in life- Mm... 19:21 I wanna be surrounding myself with great leaders, with great people, but also I wanna be treating myself how I wanna treat others- Mm-hmm... 19:29 and showing up to that degree too, and sharing that in a way that gets people to act too. Because I know, like we talk all the time- Mm-hmm... just like we're doing on this podcast. 19:40 [laughs] But talking's good, but doing- Yeah... doing is better. Mm-hmm. So tell me, within your own life, what have you done to change this mindset of yours and also impact other people too? 19:53 Because not only are you guiding people along and wanting them to adventure with you, you're an author, you're a speaker. Mm-hmm. How has that helped you in, um, communicating your message to others? Okay. 20:06 Say the first part again. [laughs] It was like... It was like there's a lot of editing. It was so good. [laughs] It was so good. Yeah. I have to replay it. So sorry. Um, [laughs] let me rephrase that again. Yeah. 20:14 So like, yeah, how do you just like have this energy to go out- Uh-huh... and, and do what you do as like an author and keynote speaker too? How are you bringing this all together? Oh. Yes. You know? Okay. 20:27 Easy point is that- Yeah... I, I've become the man I wish somebody could've been for me. Okay. And I'm not gonna say somebody because I've had many of those somebodies. Okay. 20:35 Um, my buddy Joseph was one of the first ones who, um, who trained me in fitness and stuff and actually got me started on my journey. Uh- Mm... 20:43 my teacher Don who got me, uh, into the martial arts side of it and kind of accepted me in that side. Uh, everybody here at Achieve, the leaders and all, I mean, Mamie, Laura, Rob, Harold. I mean, I can go on and on. 20:55 Mack, Otis. I mean, all the guys that are w- there, they've been that person for me. Yeah. So now I had to create and become the person that other people needed that I needed- Mm... 21:06 back then to guide myself out of this situation. Right. I had to do it for myself, and now I wanna do that for other people. 'Cause I know how good it feels now to get out of that darkness. Mm-hmm. 21:16 Is it always kind of lingering? Sure. Yeah. You know? Because you always have that one, that uneasy human feeling like, "Is this really what I want? What, what's going on in life?" Right. 21:25 But man, I'm so far out of it, it's like it's just a distant memory now, you know? Yeah. So I had to be that person. I have to be that person I wanted to have for other people. Mm-hmm. That's huge. Yeah. 21:38 And, um, yeah, how did you get... Talk to me about your, uh, keynote speaking ability. Okay. Like how did you get into speaking on stage and- Okay... using that as a platform to share? 21:49 That actually started off with, uh, 1 Million Cups. Okay. I did a, a talk with 1 Million Cups when I first opened up my business as a survival instructor. Okay. And my coach then, Frank, 22:01 he was telling me, "Of course you have to have that authenticity. Be raw with people. Tell them your story." Mm-hmm. And what I was wanting to tell them, of course, is like, "Hey, I do survival. How cool?" You know? 22:10 And- Right... he was like, "No, get deep." He said, "The story you just told me of who you are and why you became a survival instructor, tell that." Mm-hmm. "Be vulnerable." Right. So, okay. 22:20 So went to 1 Million Cups, told my story, shed some tears. It was therapeutic. Yeah. And I talked to him, and everybody stood up and st- started clapping and was like, "Man, the, just thank you for being here." 22:33 And I talked to Frank, and I was like, "Well, how do I get into the coaching space and stuff? What is that about?" He was like, "I don't see you as a coach. I see you as a keynote speaker." Mm. 22:40 He's like, "You nailed it, dude. Follow that." I said, "Okay." Mm-hmm. So I started talking with Achieve Systems, and of course this is what we do is a lot of speaking events. I mean- Right. 22:48 Um, and I've worked with speakers, Marty from, uh, NSA. Mm-hmm. Mamie, who's actually worked with... Have you met Mamie? Mm-hmm. Uh, Mamie Lamley, who's worked with, uh, Tony Robbins- Wow... uh, TR Beckerd. 23:00 I mean, big names out there, you know? Yeah. And they've been willing to coach me and teach me the ways. Mm-hmm. Now I'm, uh, speaking on a cruise ship next year in July. Nice. I mean- Cool. Yeah. So cool. 23:11 And it's just to share this message. Like- Right... I'm here. We see you. Send the signal, you know? Mm-hmm. And I... You did a, uh, one of my videos on that, you know? I did. The three, the three signals. Yeah. 23:21 The three signals. Send a signal. That's cool. You know? Guys are, have a hard time with that because we don't wanna show weakness. Mm-hmm. And that's why I said that. Don't tell me what it is. 23:29 Send those three, those three dots, those three periods to show me that you need help- Right... or that you're reaching out. Right. And I'll be there. Yeah. In fact, I had a guy on YouTube that did that. 23:38 So I'm gonna be talking to him hopefully here soon, so. Oh, that's great. Yeah. It's good. That's awesome. So the videos are working great. [laughs] Videos working. Yeah. [laughs] Good. Yeah, man. 23:46 It's, it's been really fun editing the videos and managing your socials, and even just doing strategy with you when it comes to- Oh, yeah... who are you focused on when it comes to your target audience too. 23:58 And, uh, I'm sure you've been learning a lot when it comes to social media. Yes. And so, um... And getting, slowly building it, right? It does take time, right? Everything does take time when it comes to marketing. 24:10 Mm-hmm. But what has been some of, yeah, your strengths and also some of your weaknesses when it comes to marketing yourself as a keynote speaker, as an author, um, as someone who wants to help other men- Mm-hmm... 24:24 um, with struggles, inner struggles? Yeah. Education. Education. That's been my biggest one. Okay. When we talked about marketing, selling, and all, that's not a realm that I'm from. Mm-hmm. 24:33 You know, I was a massage therapist, still a massage therapist for the last 16 years. Right. Now you're telling me you have sciatic pain, I'll fix it in a heartbeat 'cause I have the education. Cool. 24:40 But when it comes to the word marketing, I was like, "Do I just put myself out there? What is that?" Where do I start? So it's learning that process. Yeah. And what that means, how to work it. Right. What's, uh, 24:50 what's working in the world right now? Mm-hmm. What have we not discovered? All these questions come up, but that's really what it is, just me learning that, what that is. Gotcha. Okay. Here's a good one. 24:59 The word discipline. Mm-hmm. Okay. It was a few years ago where I actually learned what that m- actually meant. Yeah. When I heard disciplined, I heard that you were a good boy. Mm. 25:10 Because you have dis- you know, you discipline that kid. You know, you told that kid to behave. Oh. See what I'm saying? Oh, my God. So when- That's not it [laughs]. No, yeah, at all. 25:17 So when I heard that, they were like, "Are you disciplined?" I'm like, "Yeah, I'm a good boy." You know what I mean? [laughs] Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. Not what that was. But then I was like, "No, not at all what that meant." 25:25 Mm-hmm. And then once I learned it, of course, then you get, you know- Right... you start working towards it. Right. Am I the most disciplined person? Obviously not, but I'm working towards it. Right. 25:31 And that's where we need to be, and that's the vulnerability we need to show. Right. A lot of YouTube guys and social media, they're like, "Oh, I figured it out. Let me show you." Mm-hmm. 25:39 But nobody takes the process with you. Right. So I'm like, "Well, I'm gonna do that. Let's..." 25:44 Yeah, I'm not perfect, but I have the guys who have done the most in their life, and c- I can connect you to them, and we can learn with them together. Mm-hmm. 25:52 That's why I say, yeah, it's a self-rescue mission for me, too. Mm-hmm. You know, every day. So why not take other people with me, when in fact, it was what t- me tearing away from society- Mm-hmm... 26:02 and the ideologies is what saved my life. That's that lone wolf mentality. Mm. To become who you're supposed to be, you have to ask those inner questions for yourself. 26:09 Nobody can answer that for you or take that journey with you, and that's where I start you off at. Gotcha. Then you go out and find the tribes and stuff that have what you need. Mm-hmm. That's what I'm doing. 26:19 I'm finding those tribes. I'm finding the people who can connect me. Social media, I don't know much about social media. Yeah, right, but you're learning. Learning. You learned- Just the education... the last month. 26:26 You know so much more than you did- Man... the month before, right? Serious, by the way, yeah. [laughs] You guys need this... Yeah. This guy's good with social media stuff. Yeah. But yeah, the education. 26:35 Well, oh, I, I was gonna go back to- [laughs]... as much as I know, I learned so much from Nisha earlier. Oh, yeah. An Achieve member, and s- Uh-huh. Hi, Nisha. [laughs] Yeah, you know, if you're listening to this. 26:45 [laughs] She will. She will. Oh, yeah. Um, she loves podcasts. Um, she's gonna start her own one day. But yeah- Oh, yeah... 26:50 um, she told me something really, really interesting, which I was gonna impart to you, and I might as well impart to everyone here- Yeah... that's listening, too. 26:58 When you're marketing yourself, when you're telling your story through social media- Mm-hmm... think that you're talking to one person. Hmm. That's your target audience, one person. Okay. 27:07 And keep showing up for that one person, and she gets all of her leads, she gets all her clients just through Instagram, just through social media because she has specifically narrowed it down to one person. Hmm. 27:19 And if you think like that, every time you do your videos, you will hit your target every single time. One person. So just one person- I'm thinking of you... that like you're talking to. Mm-hmm. Like a friend, basically. 27:32 Yeah. And how you're imparting this wisdom, this knowledge, uh, to this friend, this advice, whatever you're doing, the service, the product that you're selling, that you're sharing this story with just one person. 27:42 I was like, "That was really impactful. I'm gonna remember that, Nisha." [laughs] Mm, that's a good one. So yeah. Wow. As we think about, you know, how we're showing up for people- Mm... 27:50 and sharing and marketing our services, which marketing to me, it's storytelling. Okay. It's telling a great story in a way that will appeal to a certain target audience, which will help them solve their problem, right? 28:02 Mm. Because it's not about you, right? Mm-hmm. It's about your audience. So it's like, what stories are you telling them? What stories are you telling yourself to get them attracted, right? 28:13 To attract them to what you're sharing, right? Yeah. Because people want to be heard. Mm-hmm. And you're giving them that space essentially when you're hold- you're holding space. Right. 28:21 As I'm holding space for you right now- Mm-hmm... which is kind of ironic to think about. [laughs] But yeah, I, I really, yeah, I, I really think having this, um, servant or stewardship mindset, um, we definitely need to 28:36 make more room for people and listen more, too, because I feel like marketers, they don't do this. They're always talking. You should be asking more questions. Yeah. Right? 28:47 We should be really listening, actively listening, and, um, I'd love to hear more about how you're working or in the future, how you're going to be working with your clients when it comes to, um, yeah, how you're showing up for them. 29:02 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay. Well, I got two pieces of that. Sure. First off- Sure... 29:05 um, I have my six-month program where I actually take people through their inner wilderness, and I help them find those people that we need to, you know, help you build up to who you wanna be. Mm-hmm. 29:16 The first part of that is the inner wilderness mapping. You can just take that and go on your own and do it, you know? Mm-hmm. But it's really digging deep into finding out what and who it is you're supposed to be. 29:26 So two parts to that first part. Hello, and welcome, uh, to One Eleven podcast. I'm your host, Donald Desrosier, and this is your co-host, Stella, my black magical cat. 29:38 And we want to take you on a journey through the entrepreneurs that I interview about their new beginning stories. 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So get in early, and I would absolutely love for you to join in on the fun, and, uh, contribute and be a part of something bigger than just yourself. 30:47 And this is a great time to actually help me build a podcast. So if you've always wanted to start a podcast or you just wanna contribute to a podcast and seeing how it grows, this is a perfect time for you. 30:59 And so thank you again. Uh, my name is Donal Desrochers. This is Stella here, and welcome to 111 podcast. I'll catch you on the next interview. Okay. Gotcha. 31:09 The second part, of course, is having these, uh, these trips or events of getting people together. I have... I'm in conversations with a few people right now who, one, does adventure trips. He's in, um, 31:21 oh, I can't even pronounce the name. It's somewhere in Asia. The Silk Road, he's doing horseback riding on the Silk Road. Okay. And they do, like, falconry and living with locals in a yurt. Like- That's-... 31:29 it's super cool... amazing... stuff like that. I love that. Um, I'm still working with him and getting that in line and all, but um, I also have, um, one of my mentors who is a tracker. He's been a tracker for 15 years. 31:40 Cool skills like that, you know? Yeah. He'd come out and have a men's group and show those skills. Mm-hmm. Uh, are you gonna be using that as a search and rescue guide? 31:47 No, but once again, those are skills that you could say you have as a man. Mm-hmm. See what I mean? Um- Right... I got a couple fitness guys. I got a, a gentleman, um, Otis, who was, uh, Special Forces. Mm-hmm. 31:58 I've, I've... I apologize. I wish I would've asked this. I believe he's a lieutenant colonel. Okay. I believe. Um, and knowing him, [laughs] I'm pretty sure. But, uh, he's a leadership coach. Mm-hmm. 32:08 And when it comes to leadership from that man and how he speaks to you and just- Yeah... phenomenal, and more me- more men need to be around him. He's just- Mm-hmm... he's one of my mentors, so amazing. 32:18 But I have all these pieces coming together. Yeah. So if, like I said, you come with me and we take this path- Mm-hmm... we can speak to Otis and learn together. Mm-hmm. I know these people... 32:27 'cause I'm, I'm pinging these people 'cause of they're, they're things that I wanna do. Right. I also got a guy in Denver who does archery. Uh- Oh, cool... 32:34 like, so I wanted to do, like, a father-son type days with him or- Yeah... you know, different stuff like that. But you're out there getting those stories. Mm-hmm. Let's say th- the word confidence. Yeah. Uh, 32:45 when we say confidence, we think it's an essence of something coming out. Think of it this way. If you start learning a cash register for the first day, okay? Mm-hmm. And you're like, "Ah, okay, this button and, uh..." 32:55 Then you start really have to count out 40 cents, you know, a quarter, a nickel, and a dime. Right. You lack confidence because you haven't really ex- learned this system- Right... 33:03 or you haven't seen what it's capable of, what's there. Right. Give it a few months, you're over there talking while you're pushing the buttons. You grab 40 cents, and you're just on your way. Now you're confident. 33:12 Mm-hmm. Okay? Well, same thing comes with, like, looks. Mm-hmm. You see enough girls looking at you, whatever, you're like, "Oh, I'm... Yeah, I'm pretty confident they're looking at me 'cause, yes." You know? 33:23 [laughs] Sure. That's, you know... Or I've, I've put in the work with the marathons and stuff. Yeah. I've done the work. I know how to run. I know I can run a marathon, therefore I'm confident I can do it. Right. 33:31 Now, if somebody's never done it, uh, go run a marathon. Uh, y- it's the same feeling of this, as the cash register. Right. You know? So it's the lack of experience- Thank you... or the experience. 33:42 Once you have enough that you become confident to just do it like it's second nature. My confidence came from doing the damn thing. Right, showing up. Showing up. Mm. 33:51 Once I became a survival instructor, I walked around with my chest big. Mm-hmm. I became an EMT, even broader. Mm. Became a firefighter, man, you better stop. [laughs] And that's the... 34:02 I was just was hanging around those guys, man. I'm like- Right... "Damn, I'm one of them." Right. You know? So once I got the job in- Mm-hmm... you know, I was like, damn, that's a thing. Right. 34:11 Like, th- I built confidence in finding myself, having these experiences, knowing I can do it. Mm-hmm. You know? Right. It's the same thing. It's not this thing where I'm... 34:20 I mean, you can look in the mirror and reaffirm it to yourself. Mm. Yes. But it's until you do, you show up and you do the thing- Right... that's when confidence comes. 34:29 If you're lacking confidence, it's because you haven't done enough of becoming who you're supposed to be to have that fulfilled. It's the doing. It's the doing. Yeah. And that's what a lot of men are missing. 34:40 Why am I lacking confidence? Why am I doing this? Because nobody... You ask anybody out there, they have their own versions. Like I said, discipline, that's why I brought that up earlier. Right. 34:48 We have two different definitions. One's yes. One's like, "What the hell?" You know? Right. Right. And that's where we're missing a lot of that, so those two pieces are bringing that together. Yeah. 34:58 Um, famous quote by David Goggins- Yeah... "The only way to change your DNA is through discipline." Mm-hmm. This is what he says, and I completely agree with him, too. 35:08 If you wanna get anywhere in your life, it starts with discipline. Mm. And part of that is showing up and putting in the work, but consistently- Mm-hmm... 35:17 putting in the work, so I think that's the thing people don't realize, how many times they have to... "Oh, I gotta do it again." Yes, of course you gotta do it again. [laughs] Yeah, yeah. 35:24 [laughs] How are you gonna develop the skills if you don't put in the work? Mm-hmm. Right? 35:29 And people don't like to do the work, but I'm like, if you don't do the work, how are you going to get where you want to go in life? Mm-hmm. 35:36 How do you actually have this, yeah, h- this mindset, this abundance mindset, right, not fixed mindset? And so tell me about your abundance mindset because it sounds like, you know, you've been an EMT. 35:50 You've been a firefighter, been a survival instructor. Mm-hmm. I feel like you do it all. [laughs] Um, you're very proficient at it. You're very confident at it because you've done it so many times. Mm-hmm. 36:00 And I feel like you're taking the same, um, the same mindset into now keynote speaking. Mm-hmm. Right? So tell me a little bit about how you, yeah, how you do that all in all. It's a decision. Mm. 36:14 Listen to the word real quick, and I have this in my book, and I know you read that part. Mm-hmm. Decision, it has a cutting effect. Decision. Yeah, it does. Okay? It does, yeah. 36:21 So when you make a decision, when you cut off every other idea- Yeah... that's when things start changing. Mm. Okay? And you know when you make a decision because it's not what most people think. 36:33 Like, when you tell somebody, "Oh, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna do this, and I'm gonna go over here and have this life." Mm-hmm. 36:38 When you make a decision You feel fear right off the bat because the synopsis in your mind, in your brain- Yeah... are triggering saying, "Hey, we're going the wrong direction. We're gonna die." Mm-hmm. 36:49 "And you're gonna build new neurons." Mm-hmm. "Let's not do this." Mm-hmm. And so that panic starts to come in. Right. 36:54 It's not because it's true of the situation that you're going towards, but it's because of the, um, the mental aspect. But once you make that decision- Mm-hmm... of where you're going- Mm-hmm... 37:05 m- and you start taking steps towards it- Mm-hmm... that's the biggest key. You can't just make a decision and then sit there and be like, "The universe is gonna give it to me." S- okay? Just gonna wait around. 37:12 [laughs] Yeah, just gonna wait around. Yeah. I've done that so many times. I'm like, "This is not how it works." No. Make the decision. Mm-hmm. Start taking steps, and the simple step I was taking- Baby steps... 37:20 baby steps. Yeah, yeah. Go on YouTube and learn the s- the subject you're trying to get into. Mm-hmm. Go, go buy books. Actually buy a book. Yeah. Read it. Mm-hmm. 37:29 But it's the act of buying a book and getting in that subject in your mind. Mm-hmm. Once you start getting those lessons, you start knowing what to look for. Mm-hmm. 37:37 Then I'll go to you and be like, "Hey, uh, you know how to make money?" "No." "Okay, cool. You know how to make money? Cool." "No." And then somebody will say, "Hey, this guy does." I'm like, "What?" Mm-hmm. 37:46 Then you go talk to him and you realize the universe was conspiring to bring those things to you anyways, but you had to show that you had the balls to even make the s- first step, or take the first step. Mm-hmm. 37:55 But that decision, the first one right off the bat, is where it is. When I became a survival instructor, I had no other choice- Yeah... but to go. Mm-hmm. Now let's take it back to survival. Right. You have to get home. 38:09 Yeah. Are you gonna sit there and die? Or are you gonna make the decision to go home? Gotta move. [laughs] It's pretty easy, right? 'Cause you're like, "I, well, I'm not... I'm getting my ass out of here." Right. 38:18 That's the power of learning what I've learned in survival- Mm-hmm... into success patterns. Mm-hmm. Make that decision, "I'm getting the hell out of here. I don't care how." Right. Even if it kills me. Right. 38:29 Once that decision's made, then you make those steps forward and you get yourself out of those situations. Mm-hmm. That's where the power comes in. So decision is like commitment. Yes. 38:39 And that's kind of a scary word too, though. It is. [laughs] It is. Yeah. Um, a decision... Commitment, and it goes deeper. Wait, wait. Are they the same thing or different? You- It's- Decision, commitment... 38:49 it's the same thing, but it's the roots of the decision. Okay. Okay, so commit- Talk to me about commitment... let's say commit. Yeah. Talk to me about that. For me anyways. 38:54 [laughs] This, for me, kind of gets at- Sure, sure... 'cause this is really what kinda gets that point across- Mm-hmm... or that, uh, that motion, right? Yeah. When you make a commitment- Mm-hmm... 39:03 there's, there is this waveringness, right? Mm-hmm. So when you have that vision of who you're supposed to be, and instead of it being a change- Mm-hmm... you're truly expressing what's inside already. Mm-hmm. Okay? 39:16 That's- Yeah... it's not a commitment to change, it's a commitment to release and let f- or bring forth what's really inside. Okay. Think of the word transformation for a second, okay? Mm-hmm. Powerful. When we say... 39:29 But there's a negative to it- Mm... that most people don't see, and I want everybody to pay attention to this, because I was just noting the, noticing this recently. Mm. We want transformation. We wanna change. Mm-hmm. 39:40 So you go in the mirror saying, "I need to transform and change. I need something different from me." Yeah. How painful is that? 39:47 Would you go to a significant other, look them in the face and say, "Uh, I need s- I need change. I need change." How would you hurt that person? Yeah. So why the hell are you telling yourself that in the mirror? Mm-hmm. 39:58 "I need transformation. I need change," 'cause you're not happy with who you are. Of course your heart's gonna hurt, and you don't even realize it. Mm-hmm. And you're putting yourself in a depressed state. Mm-hmm. 40:07 Now, instead of us thinking about transformation, think of ourselves as realization. Mm. You know, you've come to this world, as a wet sucker hit the carpet and you came up with a bunch of hair and shit. Mm-hmm. 40:17 Now you gotta find people to clear those pieces out so you can see who you truly are. Mm-hmm. Going into this inner wilderness and finding out what it is true that's trying to be expressed is, is the key. 40:29 It's not about transforming, it's about releasing. It's about taking those pieces Riven means to tear away. Mm-hmm. Tear away those pieces that no longer serve you so that the true you can come out. 40:41 It's not about commitment, it's about letting go. Mm-hmm. So you're committing to letting go, yes, but there's a deeper root to that. 40:49 So w- as for myself, you have to find that authentic self inside and be brave enough to express it and be who you are. Mm-hmm. It's not transformation and it's not change. It's, "I'm tired of playing this role. 41:00 I'm tired of being this person." Even Jim Carrey said that, and I'm... That's where depression comes from. Mm-hmm. Be who you're supposed to be then. Right. Don't commit. Show love to yourself. Mm-hmm. 41:13 And that's the key that changed my life. Why am I trying to change for everybody else? Why am I trying to make this transformation so they accept me? Mm-hmm. How about I be the best version of myself? 41:23 And then once I did, I shined a light to everybody else, and I have, like I said, guys coming to me like, "Dude, you're, you're awesome. You're the best," because they want that same thing. 41:30 They want permission to shine their light as well. Mm-hmm. I can't remember the poem right now, but there's a poem that says that. Hmm. And I truly believe that I'm finding that way to do that for other people. Mm-hmm. 41:40 So yes decision, yes commitment, but really what it comes down is that love to express who you truly are. Let people see who you are. Mm-hmm. And live from that. 41:50 Even the way you make money, even the way you live in your relationships. Even if you don't have those relationships you want or you just wanna have this loner life like I do, then live it- Mm... 42:01 if that's truly who you are. Mm-hmm. You know? Right. That commitment is really about the self-love and saying to yourself, instead of saying, "I need transformation," saying, "I need to be expressing. 42:12 I need to be myself, and I'm tired of these pieces that are stuck to me that don't serve me- Mm... for everybody else." Right. There's a deeper root to that, but yeah. Oh, for sure. For sure. 42:22 But it's like you don't show up for others too, you show up for yourself- Show up for yourself... every single day, right? Mm-hmm. And it's just like, who cares what other people think? Mm-hmm. Right? Yeah. 42:29 Like, they're gonna judge you or... I find most people are just so self-absorbed anyway, they don't really care. You know, they- they- Yeah... they could give two shits about what you wanna do. 42:39 Like, uh, as long as you're not hurting anybody, right? Like, it's just, you wanna live your w- life the way you want to live your life, right? Absolutely. So it's like you want to... 42:47 And I know that's a lot harder said than done, but it's like [laughs]- Yeah [laughs]... i- it's, it's that continual mindset of, of being aware- Mm-hmm... of being present, and then also, like, knowing your worth. 43:00 Mm-hmm. Right? Self-worth is huge too, but knowing your purpose. Yeah. Right? And your me, having that alignment, um, and, and just keep at it. Mm-hmm. You know? 43:09 And, um, this commitment that you were saying earlier, yeah, commitment's huge. It can be scary, but at the end, end of the day, it's better to have done that thing than to not have done anything at all, right? 43:20 Absolutely. So it's like you, you wanna try new things. You wanna take risks. Mm-hmm. Right? So it's like, it's that risk taking, and this is the thing I love about entrepreneurship too. It's all about risk taking. 43:30 Oh, yeah. 'Cause even the people you meet, you don't know what's gonna happen. You could, like, work with them or you don't work with them. 43:36 Or, you know, it's like they could be a bad person, could be a great per- you know, they could be part of the community. 43:40 But the thing is, at the end of the day, it's like just getting out there and presenting yourself in a way that you would want to meet too. This is what I found too, of like, do I wanna meet that person- Mm-hmm... 43:53 that I just talked to? And I'm like am, or am I presenting the best version of myself? Because that's how I wanna be treated. Sure. 44:00 And it comes back to, it's like h- yeah, it's like [laughs] you, you, uh, what's the golden rule? Treat others that you wanna be treated- Yeah... kinda deal, right? Yeah. 44:08 So, and, and it's so true in so many ways, which I really love, and it's just something that I've just seen as a, u- a, a huge weight off my shoulders too because I'm not, I'm not acting. I'm just, this is me. Mm-hmm. 44:22 This is my authentic self, and I love treating others with respect and asking amazing questions too because I'm a naturally curious person too. Mm-hmm. And I think as an entrepreneur, you have to be naturally curious. 44:35 You have to have a sense of wonder too. Mm. 'Cause people are really drawn to that too, of like, oh, there's something... There, there's this energy- Yeah... that you see in certain people, and then others you don't. 44:46 You know, it's not, it's not true for everyone. 44:48 I wish it was true, but, um, and, and that kinda brings me to my next question too, of like how do you find the types of people that you wanna work with or that you, you know, wanna serve, you know? 44:59 Or how do you attract those that you wanna serve as well? Because I've seen it go both ways, but I've always learned you have to be proactive, not reactive. Mm-hmm. 45:08 If you really want something, you gotta go out and you gotta introduce yourself, right? Right. You gotta go talk to people. They're not gonna come talk to you initially, right? That's not how it works. 45:16 So tell me, I guess, a little bit about your relationship building experience and, uh, how that's going in your entrepreneurship journey. Mm. 45:24 So really, it, it goes back into turning into yourself and what you, and who you really are. Mm-hmm. 45:30 Um, and then you find those tribe- that tribe that kind of resonates with who y- or what your values are and such, you know? Mm-hmm. You start seeing the value in other people. Mm. 45:39 And not because of what you can get out of them- Right... but what they're shining out, and it's like I respect and love who you've become because of what you've done. Mm. 45:47 At the same time, you find those people who are really lacking those, like the, the confidence or lacking that, uh, appreciation, whatever. And you, having been there, 45:58 you're like, "I know what that feels like," and it's, "I got you." It's that compassion. It's that empathy, like I, yes, I feel that. I understand. Please, like let, let me just step into your world. Nothing expected. 46:11 I have, I have a program, by the way. [laughs] But you come to them and you're like, "Let me, let me be that person just to be there with you." Right. Nothing involved. 46:20 Just, just be there for, for somebody, just to listen. Yeah. Um, really getting in touch with that- Mm... and who you are, who they are, giving them grace to be who they are. Mm-hmm. That's really key. 46:34 Now of course, if they don't vibe with you, which is the case, then, you know, that has to go this way. You go this way, no problem. Right. Let's take an example, like me, I don't like football. 46:44 I don't, I never had an interest. [laughs] Me either. Yeah. You know? Like, yeah. I don't watch football, nothing, you know? But my parents on the other hand, oh my gosh. Right. Love it. [laughs] Yeah. Right. 46:52 But that was put, uh, that was put on this world for your parents. Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah. It, it wasn't put on the world for me. Right. Right. You know? But you show- That's true... 46:58 you, you show me anything of Japan and martial arts and ninjas and stuff- Oh, yeah... oh, I'm all over it, dude. Cool. [laughs] Um, or in survival, whatever. Sure. Sure. 47:05 But that kind of mentality has to stick with that as well. Mm-hmm. Some people are not here for you. Right. You know? That's true. 47:10 And some people, they just have to go their ways, or they come in for a season and then go. Mm. And be okay with that. Right. Right. So 47:17 I'm very fluid when it comes to your friendships or whatever, like if we didn't talk again for another 10 years, I have no hard feelings. Some people were like- Yeah... 47:26 "Well, why don't you talk to me anymore, talk to me anymore?" And I think that's more of a, um, a psychologic- psychological issue, like an attachment issue maybe. Mm. I'm not a psychologist. Sure. 47:36 But if you talk to me that way, me having that lone wolf type vibe- Yeah... then 10 years from now I'll come back to you again and we'll... 47:44 I mean, right off the bat, just like we haven't, uh, like we've been talking forever. Yeah. But because that's why I take you with me when I go to places. Mm. Just as everybody else in my life. 47:53 We had a friendship and all, and we've been cool. You'll always come with me, and when I come back to you, we'll share the same stories. Mm. But having that, that okay- Mm-hmm... of those connections- Right... 48:03 whether they come and go is really where it comes down to and what you're looking for. Got you. Got you. I love that. I love that philosophy too because it's like you're not expecting. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Right? 48:13 And we shouldn't have expectations of others. Yeah, yeah. 48:17 We should have, um- An agreement with ourself of like, hey, this is the types of people, or even some strategy of like, these are the types of people I wanna serve- Yeah... or wanna connect with. 48:27 And you'll find it based off their energies, I found anyways. Absolutely. Like, there's certain energies that I wanna align myself with versus others. Mm. 48:34 And it's those energies that really draw me in, and of course personalities help too as well. [laughs] Right? Like, there, there, there's some little prerequisites, sure. Yeah. 48:44 Um, because you don't, you know, just some personalities you're like, "Yeah, I'm never gonna talk to that person again," you know? [laughs] Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's a few. I'm like- Right? [laughs]... 48:51 and I'm not gonna pretend to be positive. Yeah. Let's be real. There's some people I'm like, "Go away." Yeah. Yeah, right. And you're like, yeah, you just gotta find your tribe, I guess, at the end- Yeah... 48:59 of the day, and you just gotta be, show up authentically and, you know, what comes, what comes. That's right. And, uh, especially, like, all these networking events that we've been going to- Sure... 49:08 I've been going to- Yeah... for the last few months, you meet some really interesting people, you know? Mm-hmm. And like, everyone has their wants, their needs, their pain points, you know. Oh, yeah. 49:17 So, um, let's get a little more practical here. Sure. Uh, when you go to networking events, I, I think you invited me one after this, you know? [laughs] Mm-hmm. Yeah. Right, that's it. 49:26 What, what, what are some things that you look for, uh, when you're looking to network with people? Um, yes, with the, the business side, of course. Yeah. Uh, that's the first one because you are there for the business. 49:36 Sure. Plus you start looking at who they are. Mm. I start looking for education, which is a big one too. Right. What can I learn from this person? That's smart. 49:44 Um, and it's not just the marketing, sales, and all that, but really, uh, the way somebody shook somebody else's hand. Like, how can I be more like that? Mm-hmm. How can I smile more like that? What makes them tick? 49:54 What makes you so happy? What makes you have to put on a fake smile because you're unhappy? Those are key points that people don't pay attention to, so I read the room very well in those cases. Mm-hmm. 50:04 Then of course, you know, like, whatever referral partnerships you can build. Mm-hmm. Uh, sometimes you meet people who are successful who have a family member who is struggling. Yeah. 50:13 I'm like, "Okay, well connect me with them so I can speak with them." 'Cause they may not be there, but you have those connections. Right. 50:17 I mean, it's not just the person you meet, it's the millions of people they've had impact on. Mm-hmm. Whether positive or negative. Right. Uh, so those things. 50:24 But for me, honestly, the deeper root of meeting those people gets, comes back to what you were saying, that connection. Mm-hmm. Is really seeing 50:33 what it is I can learn from that person, and how, what I can do to share with that person. Right. You know? 'Cause we have value too, so- Oh, totally. [laughs] Yeah. Yeah, absolutely, so- We are so valuable. 50:43 [laughs] Oh, yeah. [laughs] So valuable. [laughs] Uh, but yes, really for me, those are the main keys for networking. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. 50:50 Like, I, I am always like, I, I wanna find out who they are because then I can see if I can serve them- Yeah... or serve their, um, their clients- Mm... or, you know, who- whoever they're serving, right? 51:01 Um, or if they have a product, let's say. Mm-hmm. And I was like, what can I help them with that could, you know, when it comes to the marketing realm. 51:09 'Cause there's always ways, I, there's just so many different ways that you can market something or a person. Mm. And, um, and that's, I think, the beautiful thing about storytelling too- Mm-hmm... 51:19 and it's something I wanna share because I feel like you've got a really powerful story. And your story transcends in a lot of ways too, um, because I feel like it, it, it's very relatable- Mm-hmm... 51:30 to a lot of men out there especially. So when you get up on that stage, when you give your talk, and you've given how many talks so far? A few, half a dozen or so? Oh, half a dozen. A dozen? Yeah. 51:39 Dozen or so, so you're pretty proficient already. Mm. Probably not a master yet. No. I heard it takes 10 years, but [laughs] you're getting there, uh [laughs] We gotta wait. Yeah. We gotta start somewhere, you know? 51:47 Right. Exactly, exactly. Yeah. Um, yeah, give me, I guess, a small sample of, um, of how you, how you have this, um, have this impact out on stage. 51:58 Like, what, what are some key points that you hit, and what, what, what really draws people in? And it sounds like this is, like, one of the more fun things you like to do- Mm... in, in your entrepreneurship journey too. 52:08 You know, you love just giving talks. Oh, yeah, I talk a lot, as you've noticed. [laughs] And that's one of our th- yeah. I'm, I'm very long-winded, but it's a lot to express. I mean, it's- Mm-hmm... 52:17 and from what I'm doing, it's new and it's a different perspective. Sure. Um, I speak from their perspective. I speak from them. Mm-hmm. Okay? And I say that because of what I'm, I've gone through. Mm-hmm. 52:30 So I really express that so they know they're, one, they're not alone, but that they can have that release of somebody saying what the hell they've been wanting to say. Mm-hmm. Um, I've been very, 52:42 very tamed right now because of your podcast, out of respect for your podcast. [laughs] My... It's okay. Yeah. You can unleash. [laughs] Yeah. [laughs] But my- Say what you wanna say. [laughs] Yeah, yeah. 52:52 But the reason I say that is 'cause one, it's out of respect for your podcast. Mm. But some... I, I cuss, and I don't apologize for it because people need that. Right. 53:01 People need to be able to say certain words and be like, "I'm tired of this shit," and da da da. Sure. So when I, when I speak in my keynotes, I express that energy- Yeah... 53:10 so people can relate to and be like, "Yes, I feel that same way." Right. And see somebody give them permission in a way to have that feeling. Yeah. And 'cause in my story, I had so much of that emotion- Mm-hmm... 53:22 put away, and to, to express that in that moment, to show people it's okay- Mm... and that that's why I say it's not out of a disrespect to anybody. I don't apologize because I'm not living from social norms. Right. 53:34 I don't want to, although we do because it's a human nature thing. Right. But I try my best not to, and that's defiance in that way is very much what I stand for- Mm... as crazy as it sounds. Mm-hmm. 53:46 Because I'm tired of having to live in somebody else's expectations. To express who I am- Mm-hmm... to hell with that. Right. 53:54 Instead, I want somebody to look at me and be like, "I wanted to say that shit for the longest time." Yeah, I know. It's deep in there. It hurts. Feel it. Mm. 54:02 So when I express that, when I come out in those keynotes and I start living in that light and actually raising my voice, I don't wanna blow the mic, it's that moment where people start tearing. Mm. 54:13 It's like, wow, yes, he gets it. Right. And I wish I could have that, that, that fire to express it. Right. And they do. 54:23 'Cause then they come up to me after and they gave me hugs and they're like, "I needed to hear that. I needed to know it's okay to be this person and speak in this way." You gave them the permission. 54:31 Yes, by being the person they are trying to be. Mm-hmm. That, that light, that, "Yeah, I do it. I'm, I'm me. I'm here. This is what I am." Mm-hmm. "You can be, too, and you should be." 54:42 So when they, they have that, it's that opening of like, "Ah, okay." Right. "Let me, let me just spill it out." Mm-hmm. So yeah. Wow. That's amazing. 54:50 I think it's, um, yeah, giving that permission for someone that just, they're not aware of that until you speak it, communicate to them- Mm-hmm... that value that they have and they're like, "Oh my gosh, I can. 55:03 I can let go." Mm-hmm. A lot of people I feel like are holding a lot of things they shouldn't be holding. Yeah. A lot of emotions. Mm-hmm. 55:10 Um, and you giving them permission and you saying that on stage to them, and you've had that multiple times I'm sure, right? Mm-hmm. Like, you've had people come up to you and that's- Oh, yeah... that's so cool. Yeah. 55:21 What ha- how does that make you feel? Seen- Mm... and heard. Yeah. Which is something that I felt I was lacking for the longest time. Really? I was like, "Nobody listens to me. Nobody..." 55:29 And that's, of course, affirmation. "Nobody's listening." Mm-hmm. "Nobody..." And I'm ta- I'm not talking about hearing. Listening. "You're not hearing what I'm saying. You're not processing it," you know? Mm-hmm. 55:38 And once they come to me with that and I see that they've listened, it's a good feeling because I felt invisible for so long 55:45 as expressing them, like, pains or expressing what I wanted and it was like, "Oh, stop being a bitch. You gotta be a man," you know? Right. But to have them come up and to hold that space for them and have... 55:56 And I don't care who you are. Mm-hmm. Ha- hold that space for you and be like, "They... I needed to cry. I needed that moment." Yes, you did. Yeah. 56:04 Yes, you needed to say, "Fuck everything else and fuck other people right now," you know? Mm-hmm. You need to know that it was okay because we try to express ourselves and tell our problems in a way that's acceptable. 56:15 "I'm hurting and this and this." "I'm fucking upset right now. I'm tired of this shit. I'm tired of people looking at me this certain way. 56:20 I'm tired of this and this and this," and then start raising their voice and they're starting to express it. Mm-hmm. And all of these words, although we see them as a negative, sure- Mm-hmm... is a release. Mm-hmm. 56:31 Allow it. So when they come up to me and they say, you know, they h- I hold that space for them and they are able to have that rise and that expression, I'm like, "Go ahead. I got you." Yeah. And to keep still. Mm-hmm. 56:42 Isn't that what ma- being a man is? Yeah. To have somebody have that emotional moment and not get tied up and caught up in the typhoon and, and the whirlwind of that crap. I think it's just being human. Mm-hmm. 56:54 That's what it comes down to, dog. Yeah. Definitely. A lot of us are... It's... I find it's harder to have these connections with certain people, maybe, maybe due to technology or AI. Mm-hmm. 57:09 But, like, having these really hard conversations is, is... To me, it's becoming more rare. Yeah. How do you combat that? Stop getting in your feelings about it in the moment. Mm-hmm. And that... 57:22 'Cause feelings are good. Don't get me wrong. Oh, for sure. Don't let them run you. Mm-hmm. And that's, that's the biggest part. Okay. Um, but that's how you combat that. Okay. Um, yeah. 57:31 Just having that expression that knowing that when somebody's having those moments- Mm-hmm... you don't have to get tied into it. Right. 57:37 Even when you're in an argument or something, it's people will try to poke and prod. Mm-hmm. Under- just kind of separate and say, "Why did you say that? Why are you doing this?" Hmm. Think it through. Right. 57:48 Even though you're having those emotions, it's gonna try to derail you. Right. It's a lot, [laughs] um, harder than I put it out to be, but work on it. Working on yourself, too. 58:00 It really shows how much you've worked on yourself- Mm... when it comes to, um, your emotions, your feelings, um, and how you connect with people, too- Mm... in a very intentional and meaningful way in so many ways. 58:13 Um, and you can really tell how much a person has worked on themselves because of it, of how they connect with people. So I love that because it sounds like in your own life you've done a lot of inner work. Mm-hmm. 58:24 Like, a lot of inner work. Like, you've had a lot of self-reflection, a lot of awareness, um, and it's, it's very rare to find I find more these days, you know? Um- Yeah... 58:37 so it's, it's coming to the point with a lot of people of, like, what are some recommendations that you could give them to become more self-aware or be, or to become more of themselves? Listen. Mm. Just one word. 58:52 And I'm saying listening to your inner world. Okay. Who is it you're trying to become? Why is it when you drive to work you wanna shed a tear? Mm-hmm. 59:02 Why is it when you're going to make a career out of, like, real estate or becoming a lawyer, nothing wrong with those jobs at all by any means, but why do you feel like you're driving with the parking brake on? Mm-hmm. 59:14 Is that where you're supposed to go? Listen to yourself. Listen to your body. Why is it when somebody said th- something you felt either embarrassed or disrespected? 59:22 Was it what was said or is it the entitlement that you, that person should bow to you? Mm. Okay? Key words. Listen. 59:31 Once you start listening to yourself, your inner world, who you are, what's your body's trying to tell you, why you feel those, that sadness behind your eyes. I've had that for years. Mm-hmm. What is that telling me? 59:42 Yeah. Listen to what other people are saying. If they have a similar pain that pings you and you're like, "Damn, I can relate," listen to them. 59:49 Hold that space because you're learning and they're reflecting something back to you. Mm-hmm. That's how you connect. A li- uh, listening is a skill that is not taught nowadays and not used 1:00:01 because when we speak to somebody and we say about listening, it's about responding. No. Hold... Don't think about your next response. That's why a couple times you asked a question and I was like, "Wait, what?" 1:00:13 It's 'cause I'm listening to what you're saying and kinda letting it thr- flow through and I was like- Right... "Wait, I missed that part of the first question." 1:00:19 But it's that, having that moment to step back, not think of a response. Let that come in, have time to process it- Mm-hmm... and then come back with what you're gonna say. 1:00:28 Listening is so important when it comes to human connection, and we are not doing so. In fact, that's why we have a lot of debates. 1:00:35 That's why we have a lot of divide when it comes to all, you know, political, social, religion, whatever. Mm-hmm. It's because we're trying to put across our point of view- Mm... 1:00:44 and why we're right, as opposed to you, and that's actually a tribal mentality that we're combating. But if we- Mm... stopped and listen and just, you know, networking. Mm-hmm. 1:00:55 Instead of going in there for the business stuff, w- I came here for tea to speak to you, to listen, to learn, to talk. Nothing expected. Mm-hmm. Why can't we do more of that? So you have to start with you though. 1:01:07 You have to start listening to what your body's telling you, what your mind's telling you, what, like I said, the sadness, the body, the reflection. 1:01:14 Why when I see somebody, like I see somebody out there I don't like, and my teeth come up. What is that, you know? Mm. And maybe it's a jealousy, maybe it's intimidation. Mm-hmm. 1:01:23 But jealousy and intimidation are showing you key points of where you should be working on yourself anyways and that you're lacking. It's okay. Mm. It's not a threat. That's our primitive side. Mm-hmm. 1:01:33 Maybe you need to start working on those pieces for yourself too, 'cause it's supposed to be there. That's why it's pinging you. Hey, he did it. You haven't yet. So. No, listen- But listen-... listening is huge. Mm-hmm. 1:01:43 And I do wanna make... [laughs] Um, I think one of the reasons, um, and this is something I have to get better at too when I'm asking questions- Mm... 1:01:53 is because I want to respond to your answer and then put a question in that response. [laughs] Sure, yeah. 1:01:59 I mean, look how sometimes- And sometimes it gets a little confus- and I, but I, but I want you to know that I heard you. Yes. And that's why I wanna respond in a way- Mm... uh, from the answer that you gave me. Right. 1:02:09 Right? So it's like that's the... But, but like I said, I try to put, uh, slide in a question there too. Sure. And I can understand why you get a little confused initially. Good to know. Good to know. 1:02:17 [laughs] That's fair. Um, I'm always trying to improve too. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm not the best interviewer, but I'm trying to become better every day when I interview people on this pod. 1:02:26 And that's the whole reason why I do what I do, is because, so I can become better, so I can learn how to ask better questions- Mm... 1:02:34 to my interviewees and really kind of like figure out, um, how they work and h- and how they connect with people in a very intentional way, right? Mm-hmm. And I find that intention goes so far. 1:02:47 Actually, one of my business mentors back in the day when I ran a photography business, he used to always tell me, I'm like, "What's your intention for the day?" Mm. Just do that intention. Yeah. 1:02:57 And it's, that's all what it is, comes down to when you're working with people, um, communicating, it goes back to intention. Mm-hmm. What you say is actually what you're gonna do, or are you just talking? Yeah. 1:03:08 Because that's not intention. Intention is the act of you're- Mm... gonna do this, go do it. Yeah. You know? So I really love that response- Mm-hmm... of listening. Mm-hmm. 1:03:18 'Cause you're listening to your intentions of what's the next act, the next intention I'm gonna do- Mm... which will get me closer to my goal, right? Yeah. 1:03:27 We, we all have goals, we all have dreams, we all have aspirations. I think one of the biggest reasons we become entrepreneurs is because we want to fulfill those goals. Yeah. 1:03:36 A lot of those goals we can't do at a nine to five, let's be real. Traditional jobs, they just... You can't make enough income to actually get where you want. 1:03:44 So a lot of people like myself and you, we, we see entrepreneurship as this breaking away of the cage, right? Yep. Breaking away of the systemic mindset that seems to be, uh, pervasive in our society right now. 1:03:57 So I'd love to hear more about... And, and we're winding down here. I know it's getting kinda... I was looking at my clock. I was like, "Oh, it's been over an hour," but it's okay. Oh. [laughs] It's okay. 1:04:06 Yeah, it has been at least an hour. It feels like 20 minutes. I know, right? Yeah. Well, it goes quick when you're, when you're having fun, right? Mm-hmm. 1:04:12 But um, I'd love to know, you know, some of the reasons why you decided, and I know you still have your job still- Mm-hmm... but you're getting to that point though, where you want to be an entrepreneur full-time. 1:04:23 Mm-hmm. And I'm curious, I know that's not everybody's cup of tea, and I'm not saying that like everyone should be an entrepreneur. Mm-hmm. 1:04:29 But I, I know like based off personality, based off, you know, your dreams and goals, you know, you, you can be one, but some people are just happy being where they're at. Sure. And there's no harm in that either. 1:04:40 But, you know, from your personal journey, since I'm talking to you- Mm-hmm... specifically, you know, like what made you wanna be an entrepreneur? 1:04:48 Like, why, why, why were you not satisfied being just a massage therapist? Uh, well first off, massage therapist, I'm be- I'm stuck in a room all day. Mm. A dark room. You know, it's like being in a kennel. Right. 1:04:58 And, um, being outdoorsy, having been a survival instructor outside all the time, it's, it's rough. Yeah. Why I did it for so long is just 'cause I wasn't listening to my body. 1:05:07 I wasn't listening to what my mind and my career was telling me. I just didn't know where to go. Mm. Um- Right... but becoming an entrepreneur for me is having my own world, my own freedom, my own control over my life. 1:05:24 Yeah. To be able to do things that I love, for me of course, and that's the biggest part. 1:05:28 I wanna express that a lot because giving myself those adventure trips along with everybody else or giving myself those education, I wanna go train in certain places. You know, there's a Tricom martial art place. 1:05:40 Um, been doing martial arts forever. I wanna get back into it. You know, I've been lacking on this for a while now, and it's because I'm sacrificing that right now to get my money right to go forward. Mm. 1:05:49 Um, but all these trainings that I wanna do, continue my survival training, continue with working with different people- Right... for me. Right. 1:05:56 At the same time, for when it comes to other people, my biggest goal right now, and I'm gonna put this out there because this is very, very important to me especially, I had left the fire service a year and a half ago. 1:06:08 That was a very short-lived career. I wasn't, you know, the, the super firefighter, whatever. I don't want it to come off that way. It's authenticity. 1:06:14 I was there for a short time, but what they've given me is the courage and the camaraderie of having that brotherhood. Mm. 1:06:21 In doing that, my true goal right now is to buy, um, the station that I was at, a new fire engine. Hmm. And I need to do that with money And I want that to come out of pocket, be, you know. 1:06:33 And if anybody's willing to donate that or donate to that, sure. Yeah. Um, the other part I wanna do is, uh, cancer screening for firefighters in rural areas like in our location- Mm-hmm... 1:06:43 uh, because that's lacking for a lot of them. And another one that's come up, because I was injured while working as a firefighter, well, I wasn't on a job, but I was... 1:06:52 It was me being overweight, doing the job, and of course, I had a bulging disc I didn't know about. So- Yes... but a lot of firefighters get injured from the job. It's a dangerous job. Yeah. 1:07:02 So when they get injured, having put in so much time, they're like, "Well, now what? How do I continue my work?" 1:07:08 Well, a lot of them have the opportunities to become, like, a fire marshal or whatever, but that education costs money. They're out of work right now. How do they get the money? 1:07:16 So I wanna be able to fund that and be like, "You can continue your service. You may not be on the line anymore, but you can still continue work towards your retirement and get that you deserve for your service." 1:07:29 So it's that big aspect for the firefighters themselves. It's me giving back to those communities of men who are looking for the, what they need out of life- Mm-hmm... and their confidence and helping them out- Mm-hmm... 1:07:40 and being a part of it- Mm-hmm... for myself. One of the key aspects I put in there, of course, when you're figuring out who you are, you don't do it for money, you don't do it for other people. That's my rules. Mm-hmm. 1:07:50 Whether it's respect or, you know, I want to make or build an orphanage because it makes me feel good. You don't start off there. Mm-hmm. 1:07:58 Once you figure out who you are, what you want, then you can give back to the community. Mm-hmm. 1:08:02 I figured out who I, who I am, what I wanted, and now I know the pieces I'm gonna give to myself, sure, and now I know what I can give to other people now. See the complete circle? Yeah. But- I love that... that, 1:08:13 my purpose, and I was talking to Otis about that- Mm-hmm... 'cause I thought there was multiples. You can have multiple things, and my purpose is to help men be seen, recognized, and listened to- Mm-hmm... 1:08:23 and to help them express who they are, not for what society is saying, but for their own expectations to be the best version of themselves for themselves so that everybody else can benefit from it. 1:08:34 I love- That's my purpose... I love that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, what you were saying earlier, I can kinda distill it into three words. So you're learning, you're earning, and then you're returning- Oh, stop... 1:08:44 to your community. Stop. Learning, earning, returning. I'ma write that down. You're gonna write that down. [laughs] Yeah. No, learning, earning, returning. Yes, and you're absolutely right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. 1:08:51 I love that. So you're in... Are you in the learning phase more or earning phase more? Where are you at? Earning. We're starting to go to earning. Earning. There you go. Going to earning. Mm-hmm. You've learned a lot. 1:08:59 Now you're- Yes... okay. I like it. Yeah. I like it. Yeah, and I was like, I learned that from a fellow marketer, by the way. [laughs] Uh-huh. [laughs] On YouTube. I was glad that was online. Yeah, so. 1:09:07 Well, that's cool still. I like it. Yeah, I still remember these, just little things- [laughs]... little nuggets of, like, oh, you could say that a lot shorter- Yeah... a lot more intentional, right? So, um, yeah. 1:09:16 [laughs] That's the one thing you've been working with me. Like I said, long-winded, that's my thing. Mm-hmm. But yeah. Yeah. It's, uh- Did you agree with me? Mm-hmm. For sure. [laughs] Uh, always. Always. 1:09:25 This is a sign of a good interview, right? It is, yeah. Yeah. Like, if I agree with my interviewee, right? [laughs] So my guest. Mm-hmm. My guest. Uh- I appreciate you having me, by the way. Of course. Yeah. 1:09:33 This has been really fun. Um, what is, what, what is a way that the audience and I can help serve you? Mm-hmm. 1:09:41 What's a problem, let's say, within your own business or with what you're working on currently that we can, um, yeah, that we can help you out? Sure. The easiest way is I'm here. Mm. 1:09:51 I'm looking for the men out there who are trying to be found, trying to be seen. Okay. Don't get me wrong, this is gonna be expanding out to, of course, more co-ed, to women as well. 1:10:00 I just need to focus on this to build it, and then I can give to other people. Mm-hmm. But from my perspective right now, we need this. So the help for me 1:10:08 is if you know anybody, even yourself, who needs to talk or needs to get to somebody and find their way, I'm here for that. 1:10:16 I'm working on opening up a community right now where we can have these conversations, and then if it's something like you wanna work with me so we can get you in line with what you're supposed to be doing, I'm there. 1:10:26 If I have somebody else in my network who can help you in other ways that I can't, I'll connect you. Mm-hmm. 1:10:32 But I've done my work, and I'm just, I will continue to, but let me help you and find you where you are, and we can get you to those places. But I need you to come to me, send out those three signals. Mm-hmm. 1:10:44 You know, in survival, it's three blasts of a whistle, three gunshots in the air- Right... three flashes of a light, and that's a signal for rescue. 1:10:52 Once again, you don't have to put out in the, uh, social media what the issue is. Three dots, that's gonna be my thing now. Put three dots, I know you're calling, you're asking for rescue. I'll, I'll get to you. 1:11:03 Uh, my website, of course, is iamrivenwolf.com. I have all my c- uh, information there on how to contact me, of course, and you can set up an appointment. I have a spot on the top there. Um, but reach out. 1:11:14 I, I cannot find you unless you know that you're lost and you send out the signal. Simple as that. Awesome. And you're on all social medias, right? Yeah. [laughs] I, I believe so. No. Am I? Yeah. 1:11:25 [laughs] Uh, I just wanna make that known. Yeah. Where can people find you if they wanna contact you and, you know- Yeah... get connected? What's the best way? Yeah. So, uh, the website itself. Okay. 1:11:34 And then of course look me up, uh, Riven Wolf, uh, I Am Riven Wolf, uh- Mm-hmm... my social medias, and you'll find me to see my, my cuteness on there. There you go. 1:11:41 But, um, yeah, and of course, uh, putting this out for you as well, uh, social media marketing and all, this guy's got me to different levels. One of the things I wanna bring up real quick- Mm... 1:11:51 when it comes to you, brother- Yeah... uh, one of the selling points that I've told to you this before, and this is for everybody else, we talked about listening. 1:11:58 When I told you what I was doing and h- you know, it didn't take, what, 10 minutes, maybe five minutes at that. Mm-hmm. And you were reiterating the things that I was saying and understood it. 1:12:08 That's what sold me on you 'cause I was like, "He hears what- Uh-huh... I'm trying to say. He's listening." 1:12:12 [laughs] So I want, I want that to be known when it comes to his services as well, that what he's done for me has been phenomenal, that he's had patience with me [laughs] which is a big deal. 1:12:22 [laughs] Um, but the fact that you listen, that's what really caught my attention with you because that's very important to me. Mm-hmm. So yeah, I mean, that's a little shout-out to you as well. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah. 1:12:32 It's, uh, it's m- many years of asking questions and listening. [laughs] Yeah, man. You're doing it though. You're doing it. I'm trying my best. [laughs] But yeah. Thank you again, Riven. Mm-hmm. 1:12:41 This has been an amazing time together, and I definitely wish you the best for your business- Appreciate you, man... and moving forward. Yeah. Thank you. Awesome. Yeah. Thank you, man. Come here. [laughs] Hey. Hey, guys. 1:12:51 I hope you enjoyed the episode. If you wouldn't mind liking, subscribing, commenting, sharing, rating, reviewing, it would mean the world to me and Stella here if you did that, and it really would help support the show. 1:13:05 Thank you so much, and stay grateful. Right, Stell? Stay grateful? [laughs]
