Transcript 0:00 [electronic music] Ooh. Oh, what's this? Hello there. How's it going, fam? Look what I just found. That's right, fam. Just found this. 0:17 Should we try it out? Oh, wow. Less than five ingredients with a scan me for a free airdrop. [upbeat music] Here's the magic part, fam. Got it right here. Give it a go. Whoo. That was amazing. Refreshing. 0:36 All the salts you need in your electrolyte premix. Definitely check out CryptoRush now. It even has a bonus creatine. That's right, gotta build those strong muscles. Help with all that muscle recovery. 0:50 CryptoRush, mm, gives you the rush that you need to propel yourself throughout the day. Crypto Fam Radio, I'm your host Mountain Dew. Let's go. Get some CryptoRush now. 1:03 [camera clicks] You, uh, give- All right. Ready? Testing, testing, one, two, three. Mic, mic check. Mic check. Mic check. All right. Mic check. Perfect. We're good. Um, thank you so much for being here, Chris. 1:16 It's been a minute. How are you today? I'm doing great, man. Honestly, Crypto Fam Radio, I'm so excited, man. [laughs] So excited to be a part of your podcast. 1:24 The first one of many, and again, just very honored to be on your show. Mm. Yes. Uh, honor's all mine. Thank you. And, uh, yeah, let's get started with just tell me a little bit about your story, your lore. 1:35 I wanna hear where has Chris been? Where is he going? Where did he first start with? Actually, let's start there. Okay, perfect. Let's start all the way from, you know- These are good questions... 1:45 the beginning These are very good questions, so. I'm loving it. Uh, just to give you guys a heads-up, for those that don't know who I am, my name is Chris Gonzalez. 1:51 I was born and raised in New York City, in a nice little quiet area, as we say, uh, Spanish Harlem, Washington Heights. Uh, it's a very lo- It's fairly discreet location in New York City, I would say. 2:02 A lot of immigrants live in that area. My family are immigrants from Dominican Republic. I was born in the US, though, New York City. 2:09 But, uh, having the background cultural of Dominican Republic is where my family's from and Puerto Rico. Mm-hmm. Um, I've been through this crazy transition. 2:16 As you know, you and I both know off the record, uh, been through some very big moments that changed my life, and I think that's something that the people who are watching this are gonna be interested in listening in how that happened. 2:27 'Cause maybe you yourself might be going through something similar, have gone through something similar, or know someone who may have gone through something similar as well. 2:35 Understanding them or yourselves or seeing your perception of what may have happened and where it can lead by someone like myself being an example, uh, can sort of give you your own ambition as well. 2:45 Uh, having a heart attack, let's start off with that, right? I know. Wow. I know, right? Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's start off with that. Let's start deep. Let's just go- Let's just go straight to it... go deep. 2:52 Go straight to the point. Let's go straight to it. Heart attack. All right. I had no idea. You're so young, by the way. Yeah. For this. 33 years old, man, 33. Yeah, so when, when did this heart attack tran- So-... 2:59 transpire?... November, November 2024. Okay. I'll never forget the date, November 16, 2024. Wow. Uh, it started off at, uh, an overnight lunch I had at work. [laughs] I'm, I'm a medical assistant- Yeah... 3:11 uh, at the New York Presbyterian Hospital in New York City. Um, winded up moving out of that to become a journalist full time. Uh, but let's talk about how that happened, right? 3:20 So I leave my lunch period, I go home, and I started feeling this little tight pressure in my chest. Um, didn't think much of it, you know. I was a very heavy smoker of cigarettes at that time. 3:30 Uh, so was a cigarette smoker for about seven years. After this happened, I, I quit it completely. Uh, it was the best health decision I ever made. But again- Yes... 3:37 uh, so as an example, not only for me but for the people that support Vida TV, wanna follow my steps, and my son. 3:43 Truthfully, my son, he's 15 years old, so I have to set an example to him that anything can be done, right? No matter what the circumstances are. Uh, having that heart attack led me to transition to who I am today. Mm. 3:54 Um, I did have an Airbnb company, again, medical assistant jobs, and all this cool stuff that I did prior to the heart attack. Yeah. But I think that heart attack really woke me up. Mm. 4:03 It woke me up into the sense of understanding who I was, my true reason of being on this planet, and the art that I really love the most. 4:11 Uh, people may have known me before for being a skateboarder in the city of New York. 4:15 Shout out to 5Boro, my brother Steve Rodriguez, the founder of 5Boro NYC, and, uh, all the skateboarders as well that represent New York City. 4:23 Uh, it's a little bit of my backstory of how I had this heart attack, transitioned back into journalism. Right. I was always into journalism as a young adult. 4:31 Um, again, skateboarding is what taught me to become, uh, this media guy. Mm. We would film each other doing our skateboarding tricks. We would film each other doing our podcast sessions, our interview sessions. Yeah. 4:40 Awesome. And, uh, I sort of had that, that, that love for media- Mm... sort of like you, right? [laughs] Always. I think everyone should have a love for media, though- Yeah... if we're being really honest. Agreed. 4:48 Documenting is key. Mm. Especially now than ever as content creators. We are in control of our own story. I agree. I agree. 4:56 And so it's like, if we wanna be the hero in our own story, how are we gonna show up and document that experience? I agree. I agree. 5:03 We have to learn through that experience, and it sounds like you have done that through and through. Yeah. From a big part of where you're from in Harlem to where you're at now, traveling the world. 5:13 I know you just got back from Paris. Mm-hmm. That was fun. [laughs] Yeah, and then- Shout out to Paris. Right? [laughs] The French people, they know how to party, guys. Oh, I bet. They can party. I bet. 5:22 You know, and even beyond that, you know, um, Miami- Yeah... where we met, you know, and just, like, other places, I'm sure, that you've been all over the world. The game. It's the game. And so... 5:32 And this is just the beginning, and it's just, it shows you how resilient of a person you are- Thank you... and how you've become. 5:39 And so, you know, through that experience, you would've never become that person that you are today- Correct... eventually. Correct. You know? That's very much true. And that's huge. And- But you're very modest yourself. 5:47 You say you've been traveling the world, but can we put this on the record? [laughs] Everywhere I've gone around the world, I've seen this guy there too. [laughs] Oh. So he's doing something as well, though. 5:56 Congratulations to you too, brother. For real. Well, in, in another life, I was a destination wedding photographer. [laughs] All right? So that was my job right after college. 6:03 I just was zooming everywhere, and this was before crypto, before podcasting, before anything, you know? This was straight after college. 6:09 I was a hustler from the very beginning because my dad, my parents, which I give it all them the praise, all them the glory, they taught me well because guess what? They're good. I was homeschooled Right? 6:20 And so being homeschooled, you have advantages. How was that? Talk to me about that, right. I know there's, I know we're talking about me but- [laughs] It's your interview, bro... 6:25 yeah, yeah, yeah, but I wanna, I wanna, I wanna hear about that. [laughs] Because look, the truth is that I know a lot of people- Mm... that have the homeschooling background, right? Yeah, yeah. 6:32 I always wanted to have a homeschooling background. Really? But I went to public school, right? Oh. And yeah, yeah, I know. Yeah. [laughs] See? 6:38 It's wh- it's like we [laughs] well- Did I just give you who I am and who I am not? [laughs] You want what you don't have. Really. That's true. Think about that. That's very true. 6:45 The gra- the grass is always greener on the other side. That's very much true. Right? 6:48 And it's like having that experience, it taught me a lot of lessons, but at the same time, I grew up not really having this ability to try, like, to connect with people. Correct. Yeah. Right? 7:00 Because that social interaction. I was homeschooled. That means I stayed home- Yeah... all the time, and I read books, and I watched- Pros and cons... you see what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of pros and cons. 7:08 Mm-hmm. So I had a, a, a, a very s- social anxiety type of, uh, mentality. Correct. I feel you. You know? And, and it took me a long time. I was a late bloomer. Mm. Like college, I was very introverted. Wow, really? 7:19 I'm not like I am today. I would have never expected that from the way you are today. See? I'm, well- You're outgoing as heck, man. [laughs] It takes, takes time. Wow. You b- you have to become aware. Yeah, it's true. 7:27 You know? Well, I was also an introvert. Um- Really? Yeah, believe it or not. See, that surprises me too. [laughs] Yeah. Believe it or not, I was a massive introvert. Uh- Yeah... 7:34 growing up from like elementary school- Okay... to like high school. Yeah. I was, I wasn't like, I'm not gonna say that I was like part of the popular kids. I was like in between. Mm. Yeah. 7:41 Um, because I was always in the basketball team. Okay. I was pretty, pretty known, I would say, right? Yeah. But, uh, I still had, like this insecurity inside. Mm. And the insecurity comes from, I guess, 7:51 I can't really pinpoint it, honestly, till today. I can't. Insecurity. I, I don't understand where the insecurities came from. And maybe it came from my background- Mm... 7:59 from where I was like raised at, from Washington Heights. And then- I can see that... having like so many people be judgmental towards our demographic of people. And, uh- Oh... location played a big role in that. Yeah. 8:09 Um, I've, I've been pretty much, uh, categorized, I would say, uh, because of that, right? And I lived that lifestyle for a long period of time in New York. People think in New York sometimes you don't go through this. 8:20 Right. But you, you actually go through a lot of diverse cultural differences. I would say that, right? Really? You'd be surprised. Yeah. I am surprised. Yeah. Okay. So real quick, I've never been to New York. 8:29 Oh, we're gonna have to change that. Never been. I want to. We're gonna have to change that, dude. I want to. What? [laughs] I have so many friends from New York that I've met in Florida. 8:36 I, I guess there's a lot of people that come down- Yeah... from Florida, but still, um, to this day, some of my best friends- Mm-hmm... seriously, are from New York. Nice. Well- The greatest connections... 8:45 New York is the heart of the world. It's the heart of the world. That's what I'm saying. It definitely is. But, um, but also, I, I feel like New Yorkers, they move differently- They do... 8:52 than any other Americans, let's say, you know? Yeah, they do. They have their trends. And so there, there's a certain energy that they emit. Yeah. 8:58 [laughs] And it's like, there's only so many types of people that can match that energy. Yeah. [laughs] Right. And I feel like I've got similar energies, even though I'm not from New York. Well, you do have it. 9:06 But I feel like we're kind of on that same wavelength. I thought you was from New York. No. I thought either you was raised in New York, moved out- No... 9:11 or had family in New York, 'cause you give m- the same vibes as- Really? Yeah, you give me that same vibes. I just surround myself with everyone [laughs] that are from New York. 9:17 Well, I get that, that comes with- That's the thing, I guess. I don't know... being a journalism, uh, being a journalist, right? Yeah, being a journalist, you move on. 'Cause you always adapt to your surroundings. 9:22 That's right. So yeah. That's a, that's a good take, actually. A very good- That's a good take... good perception. Yeah. Put it that way, right? Very good perception. I love that. 9:28 So being from New York, having that struggle, how did you become aware of, I guess, the person you are today? It's a good question. So I'll tell you this, how it all began, right? Mm. 9:40 Because that's where the origin is really the key. Yeah. A lot of people ask me, like, "How did you become Vita TV?" Like, "What was the storyline behind it?" Yeah. This is the first time I'm gonna say this ever. 9:49 Like, I've never spoken about this on public. I never spoken on spaces about this. Wow. And this will be the first time I open publicly about a very private reason how I became Vita TV. 10:00 Um, it all started around 2018, 2019. Uh, there's a guy that, his name is Bitfine. He's also known as, his real name, Ernesto, right? Yeah. We all go by aliases in crypto. Yeah. His is Bitfine.eth. 10:12 Mine's, again, is Vita TV. Yeah. Um, he's the co-founder. And, um, I met him through the Metaverse, and how I got to that Metaverse is where we're gonna get to that story now. Mm. So 2019 comes. COVID becomes a thing. 10:26 Right. I'm in the medical world. I'm, I'm, I'm becoming- Oh, wow... a assistant, a medical assistant. I'm working with nurses. I'm working with doctors. Yeah. The whole craziness kicks into effect. 10:34 People was dying left and right. You're wearing like double masks and everything. Dude, triple masks. Oh my God. We had the blue mask, and then we had the N95 over it. Yeah. 10:41 And then you had the shield, and then on top of that, we had the suits with the hazmat. It was, it was crazy. Wow. It was really crazy. That's ridiculous. Like working eight hours in that suit and that setup. Yeah. 10:51 I'm already 120 pounds, dude. [laughs] I was gonna say. It's like I was a walking sauna. Yeah. Kid you not, walking sauna. Yeah. 10:56 But when that happened, um, it was a very big pressure, not only to people that were going through that moment, uh, whether they were sick, losing loved ones, or dealing with the moment as a medical assistant or as they call it, an essential worker, right? 11:10 Yeah. Um, I, I lost my relationship. Mm. Yeah. I lost my relationship, uh, because of me working a lot of hours for COVID. 11:19 Uh, we were, I w- I lived three blocks away from the hospital, so I was one of the people who they sort of, not mandated, but gave me extra hours because I was so close to the hospital. 11:29 I was basically the point of contact for any emergency. Mm-hmm. I would get called in almost double shifts every day. I was putting in 40, 50 hours extra overtime, 90 hours a week. Wow. And yeah, for God knows how long. 11:41 That's crazy. That's insane. And I think that was- So much stress... yeah, that led to the heart attack. Right, right. So, so we're gonna understand- Yeah. Okay... like how this all plays a factor to everything, right? 11:49 Right. Um, they say that being, being depressed or unhappy is also one of the leading sicknesses or illnesses that give you these detrimental illnesses, right? Right. 12:00 Cancer, heart attacks, I mean, whatever the case is that we consider very detrimental. Right. Uh, it leads to that, right? Right. So again, COVID comes. I lose my relationship. I'm working too much. 12:11 I'm now becoming a single father. I have to deal with this transition- Mm... of no longer having a second person that can assist me with my child. Yeah. And having all this, like, just sudden life change happen, right? 12:24 Right. So then I say, okay- I locked myself in. How am I gonna become this non-extrovert that I was working not to be this extrovert? I became this non-extrovert, but now this heartbreak changed me, right? 12:37 As it would change to a lot of people, right? Mm. Transitioning from finances, uh, investments that we had together. I mean, we go on for days, right? Yeah. 12:45 This change was such a hard hit for me that I said, "Okay, now I gotta change my perception of how I'm gonna become me again. I gotta find myself again." It was... I, I lost myself for a year and a half. Yeah. 12:58 I went into a depression for a year and a half. Yeah. That I didn't really know what I wanted. Yeah. I didn't really hang out with family. I disconnected myself a little bit from even my own son- Wow... 13:08 'cause I was just lost. And as people say, "Well, it's just a relationship." 12 years relationship, when you have a lot of investments, the most hard thing for me was accustomability. 13:19 When you're with someone for so long, you get accustomed to that. It's more like it becomes a second habit, right? Mm. That was where the birth of Vida TV became. Because now- Wow... 13:30 I wanted to find my passion to express the world how I felt without speaking- Mm... 'cause I was an introvert. Right. So, how can I speak to the world without speaking to them, without feeling embarrassed? Mm. 13:45 Take a long time for me to even speak right now about what I'm talking about- Right... which is the first time I've ever spoken about this. Right. So that led for me to look more into who I was. What was my purpose? 13:56 Am I supposed to be the skateboarder? Am I supposed to be this medical doctor or whatever the case is? Am I supposed to be this coder? Like, what is my true meaning? 14:06 So I went through many layers, as they would say in the movie Fifty Shades of Gray, right? [laughs] I went through different shades, right? Yeah, yeah. And, uh- Yeah, peeling back the onion, right? Correct. Yeah. 14:15 Correct. Yeah. And finding who I was. Yeah. And throughout that journey, um, I met a lot of people. Mm-hmm. One of those was Ernesto. I have a lot of other mentors I would call them- Yeah... 14:27 uh, that stood by my side and really gave me the hand to learn who I was, what I should be doing- Mm... and where I am today. That's sort of the reason and how I became Vida TV. 14:39 It all started with a heartbreak, believe it or not. Wow. That's how it started. It, it led me to transition into different, I would say, versions of myself- Mm... 14:48 which introduced me to different demographics of people throughout those transitions, right? It, it's just a layer- Right... like you said. I was just transitioning, finding myself. Right. 14:57 And each person that I became throughout that transition- Yeah... I met people from that surrounding of world, that, that existence around those personalities. Right. And that's how I met so many people around me. Right. 15:08 And I found who I am today. That's amazing. Yeah. So what gave you the courage to start speaking? [laughs] Um- 'Cause you've never... You know, like, since I've met you, you've always been an eloquent speaker. 15:21 Been quiet a lot, though. Yeah. Yeah, but I'm like, what, what did it take you to get from that point, you know, from where you are now, you know? Like- Other people. Other people. I'm a community guy. I'm more of a... 15:31 I'm a community activist in New York City. Mm. I work with a lot of, uh, people in New York, different organizations from the public school system to even, like, the homeless shelter system, right? Wow. I do donations. 15:41 I give free money to the shelters to help for food or public schools for advancements in education, whether it's technology or equipment. I wanted to help back. I mean, it's in my blood. I'm a medical assistant. 15:52 I'm a nurse, you can say almost at this point. Yeah. Going to be a nurse now. Yeah. And, um, it was just in my nature to give back and help. Yeah. So my story resonated with a lot of people. Mm. 16:03 I met a lot of people that lived my lifestyle, um, where they had a separation, and they, as men, stayed with their children. Mm. We don't hear that a lot. We don't hear men staying and raising their own children. Mm-mm. 16:18 You really hear more the mother, and the father has to become- That's what I was saying... a child support of the kids. The other way around. Correct. Yeah. 16:22 So I felt that other men that were in my position needed to hear my story so they can feel empowered as well. Mm. And they can feel that, whoa, 16:32 I'm not the only person that may not have this opportunity of being a father and a mother to my son. This actually exists, and it can happen. We all know that the system today always leans more towards the mother, right? 16:43 Right. The fathers, we... Like they say in a Spanish term, "A mother can be one, and a father could be anyone." Mm. Right? So that's one rule that I always lived by, and I wanted to break that, that, that myth. 16:55 A father can be anyone. No, a father's one just like a mother's one, right? Right, right. And your position of a father as a leader, right, just like you would be a community leader- It's huge... 17:06 you have to step into that role. Step up. 17:08 And that role also is not only for just your son, but for other people that may go- be going through the same thing as you, who are not as vocal as you or don't have the same courage as you. Mm. 17:18 Believe it or not, I build the courage. I build this vocal side of me because of pain. Believe it or not. The more pain that one exists, sometimes you can mold and change to become to someone that could be good or bad. 17:31 But again, in this case- Right... I used it to become a good version of myself, [laughs] right? Right, right. But that's, that's more or less where I see a lot of great people go through. They go through tragedies. 17:40 They go through heartbreaks. They go through hard times in life- Yeah... that lead them into becoming a successful version of themself. That's just my two cents on that. I love that. 17:49 Well, it's that whole saying, you know, "What doesn't kill you will make you stronger," right? Yeah. [laughs] So- That's very true. That's very true... you have to go through that pain. Yeah. 17:57 You have to go through that intensity of suffering. Yeah. You do. Right? Yeah. Says it in the Bible, right? Yeah. Like, with Jesus, he suffered- I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you said that... how many times, right? 18:09 Died on that cross for our sins. And- You have to suffer, like you said, to not just see the greater end... he suffered for us. And in the same way we emulate him, right, as followers to... 18:19 You know, I don't want to get all religious- No, no... but it's, it's the same context, you know? You can. You can. I appreciate that. [laughs] I'm, I'm open-minded. Yeah, I'm very open-minded. 18:25 Well, I want this to be more spiritual, less religious, but at the same time- That's all right... it's, it's kind of, you know, the same- It's in our lifestyle... along the same lines. It's in our lifetime. 18:31 We're, it's aligned. It's aligned. Yeah, it's along those. Yeah, we'll, we'll take that. True. 18:33 But, but, um, in saying that, though- Through this suffering, through this pain that you had to endure, you came out on the other side- Yeah... of who you are today, VidaTV. Yeah. 18:43 How you created this amazing, um, communication platform essentially- Yeah, yeah... for people to use, um, to promote their projects, right? Right. Like, when I met you was through Digi Joints or- Yeah [laughs]... 18:57 uh, Wake and Blake show, right? That's Wake and Blake. Shout out to Digi. Yo, yo, I see you. That's right. Shout out because he honestly, through his space, X spaces, I was able to connect with so many- Likewise... 19:08 interesting people, including you. Likewise. And when we did that Famathon space. Yes. Remember 24 hour? I remember that. I remember that. Remember? And you- That was something... you hosted. Yes. 19:17 You hosted it on Vida- Yes... for 24 hours, and I'm still- That was fun... so grateful for that, bro. That was very fun. That was, I think, one of the first interactions we actually had. Yeah. 19:25 You know, I started getting to know you a little bit, and then from that, you know, we kept in touch here and there, and then it just wasn't until last few months, I think- Mm-hmm... we started to dig a little deeper. 19:34 In Vegas, right? We started getting to know each other. Vegas is where we actually sort of like- Um, I wasn't in Vegas. No, where was it that I- I was in Miami... Miami is where I saw you. That's right. Yes, yes. 19:41 [laughs] Uh, sorry, guys. It's okay. I've been around so many places these last couple months. [laughs] I've been to Vegas- It seems a little blurry... but I don't remember meeting you in Vegas. 19:48 [laughs] It's a little blurry to me. Honestly, these past couple months- Yeah... I've been going to Vegas, and then I went to Miami twice. Oh, okay. Yes. Just came from France. That's right. 19:55 I was supposed to go to China, missed my flight. [laughs] We won't talk about that. [laughs] We don't wanna talk about it. [laughs] We all miss our, we all have our hiccups, but yeah. Yeah. 20:02 Shout out to Consensus though, man. That's what I was gonna say. Coinbase, thank you. There was something in China, Consensus. Yeah. Yeah, I had another creator mention that to me. I interviewed her on a TikTok live. 20:11 She was like, "Oh, yeah, I'm going to Consensus." [laughs] And I'm like, "What?" I'm like, "Yeah." I'm like, "You should be at ETHDenver. What are you talking about? You don't need to be there." 20:17 [laughs] "You should be here." And she was like, she was laughing at me, whatever. But, you know, the point is, like, through this suffering, you know, you're able to come out on top- Perfect... 20:24 and do what you're able to do today. And, um, and let's talk about your, your event experience. So how many events have you been, like, documenting- Documenting... focused on? 20:35 Because this is kind of a new thing for you, right? As a content creator- Somewhat... or have you always been kind of a content creator? Always been, always been part of the content creation world. Okay. Right. 20:43 Uh, there's many big, many big names out there right now that do, uh, Instagram social media content creation. Right. Uh, influencers such as Ken Stars, for example. Mm. Shout out to my boy Kenny. Right. 20:52 Uh, IamBlackrose, SoSoDope. I mean, the list goes on. Right. These are people that are very huge in the- Mm... comedy side or in the influencer side of social media. Right. I began with them- Oh... 21:03 over 10, 15 years ago, before I even had my son. Interesting. Literally, like 10, 15 years ago- Yeah... we started, like, recording YouTube videos when YouTube was, like, first a thing. Yeah. 21:11 When, like, 480p was, like, the best quality. Wow. 480, 720. That's amazing. 720 was like you're, you're still there. 1080 was like the 4K of today. Yeah. Right? That's amazing. 21:21 And it was like a, the marking period of time or shift time period of, like, content creation becoming a thing. Yeah. 21:28 And when we began the skits and these little acts that was recorded, or little plays that we did, it was content creating 15 years ago on YouTube or on Skope.io, on MySpace- [laughs]... on Bebo. Wow. 21:39 Like, these are social platforms that we used before- Mm-hmm... that were like the Instagram of then. Oh. I don't know if you remember Skope.io. I don't. You don't? I don't. Bebo? I do not. No, MySpace at least, Tom? 21:50 I know MySpace. Everybody has Tom as a friend, bro. You're right, right. Tom, yeah. He was my friend. [laughs] Like, he had me as a- He hit me up on X actually. I was like- [laughs]... "This is Tom guy, man." 21:57 [laughs] No way. Dude, that's sick. Yeah, yeah. It was pretty funny. Tom, you're still out there and you're seeing this- [laughs]... follow Crypto Fam Radio and VidaTV. Give us an endorsement, you know? 22:05 He's already followed me on X. What are you talking about, bro? Well, we need an official and the check mark one. No, I'm think- I'm thinking there's that other video platform that was before YouTube. 22:11 I think it was called Vine or something. Remember that? Yes, uh- Or something Vine... yeah, Vine. I think it was Vine or Vino or- Yeah, something like that. I think it might've been Vine. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, Vine. 22:18 I think it was Vine. And that was really popular for a second. Yeah. For real. It came back. It did. So Cristiano Covino, a good friend of mine- That's right. I know him as well, yeah... 22:25 he was doing some cool, like, uh, Vine coin promotion collaboration. I, I saw that. I saw that on X. It, it came back. It came back. So now I don't know if it's actually a thing where- That's what I'm saying. 22:35 Like, did it actually come back? Like, I saw him trying to bring it back, but did it, did it- Did it really make his debut? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Like, did it come back? 22:42 And was it, like, a full debut? Like, are they back back? Just a little spark and then it went back. [laughs] I mean, I... Hey, listen. They dibbled and dabbled in crypto. They jumped in. 22:49 [laughs] They tippy-toed into what the blockchain has to offer. Yeah. And I think that if they, uh, they actually stood around, they actually could probably make some noise. 22:57 I mean, social media or SocialFi as they call it in crypto, is becoming a big thing. Uh, us- Oh, yeah... influencers and journalists, uh, we use a lot of platforms. I use recently something called Substack. Yes. 23:09 And Substack has been like- I do as well. Have you? I do. How long you been in- inside of SocialFi? Um, I actually cross, um, I guess cross-promote... I'm not sure what, across bridge it- Okay... from Beehive. Okay. 23:20 I have Beehive. So I have a weekly newsletter. Okay. And I just cross, cross-promote it or cross, cross-chain it. I, I don't know what it's called. Yeah. But basically- Multi-post... yeah, yeah. 23:28 Multi cross multi something. Yeah, yeah. I forget. We know. You guys know. But basically... Yeah. Throw it in the comments. Basically [laughs] Exactly. 23:33 Basically, when I post my weekly newsletter at Beehive, it goes to my Substack. Okay. So it's just copied over. Nice. Basically, essentially, so yeah. Sort of a, so this is the new world of autonomous. Mm-hmm. Right? 23:41 Like, people just happen to have these agents that do a lot of things, except that we're not using agents. We're actually the real deal. Agents are trying to take what we're doing, so. That's right. 23:49 Slow down the progress for those that are actually developing these agents because [laughs] Well, well, well, actually let's get- I still want my job... let's get into that discussion a little bit. [laughs] AI. 23:57 Let's talk about AI- Oh, yes... because AI is used as a tool. It shouldn't take over- Correct... your identity. Correct. Right? Correct. You should be using it as a tool. Yeah. And such, AI is becoming a lot more... 24:07 Well, it's always been prevalent, but, uh, in, in the, since Claude Bot- Mm-hmm... let's say, has come out in the last month or so- Mm... people have been raving about it. There's YouTube tutorials on it now, you know? 24:15 Going crazy all over. People are creating basically their digital personas- Mm-hmm... based off these bots, so they don't have to check their email. Sure. They don't have to check their Facebook. They don't have to post. 24:24 They don't have to sc- you know, they don't have to do any of that. I agree. They have an AI that does that for them. 24:29 So in stating that, how do you perceive AI through your own business, and do you leverage AI so you can be more present- Yeah... or let's say more IRL with people? Yeah, I do. 24:39 Because now you don't have to be there- Correct... online all the time. Correct. So talk to me about that. I would say I use a lot of AI. That might be a surprise to a lot of people. [laughs] Not to me. 24:51 I use a lot of AI. [laughs] And for what I use it for, I'll, I'll give you an idea- Sure... for an example. So, like, let's say if I do video editing, right? Mm. I'll edit the video manually- Yeah... 25:00 myself, and then I'll refine it- Mm... using AI. So I won't make the whole video with AI, I'll just use some refining or special effects or add, like, some layering to the actual video with AI. 25:12 Um, again, I also use it in many different ways, where AI is not just my agenda schedule planner, it helps me also develop my business. Mm. 25:20 Believe it or not, uh, some of the websites that we have, like vidatv.io, was created with Gemini. I used Gemini to create- Whoa... the code for our website. Nice. Our co-founder, Ernesto Biffin- Yeah... 25:32 uh, took the code and, 'cause he knows about coding- Mm-hmm... he just refined it a little bit- Mm... just to give more complex, uh, integrations of tools that we use. 25:41 Like, we have our own proprietary POS system, so we get paid in crypto, and we made that payment, uh, system from scratch. Wow. So we don't have to pay no POS company like s- uh, but we won't say no names, but- Sure. 25:52 You know, [laughs] just, uh, for security purposes. Yeah, right, right. But we have a lot of POS companies out there that charge a monthly subscription. 25:58 And to avoid those subscriptions, one of our biggest hurdles that we endured in VidaTV was budget cuts. Mm. 'Cause of a small company, their biggest issue is understanding how to run their financial sides. Mm. 26:12 Whether it's expenses, whether it's income, or just learning what is working and what is not- Mm... and where to pull back from and where not to pull back from, right? Where to invest into. Right. 26:21 And I think that, uh, understanding is a very big detrimental fail to a lot of these small businesses. And if we understand that, then we sort of, uh, fix a little bit what could happen- Mm... 26:31 when it comes to the failure side of, uh, us losing our business, you know? Definitely. Yeah. Definitely. I could see that. And I- Sorry about the sound, guys. [laughs] No, it's ki- yeah, yeah. Cheers. 26:41 Your drink is fine. Cheers. Yeah, for sure. No, I think that's interesting, um, because I've always seen AI as a tool. Mm-hmm. Right? Mm-hmm. 26:48 And it's like a lot of people are scared of AI because they're gonna take their jobs. Yeah. Right? Yeah. And what I say to that is, no, AI's not gonna take your jobs. The people that are using AI- Understand it, yeah... 26:59 is going to take your jobs. I agree. You know? So you should leverage AI now and learn as much as you can about AI- Sure... and use it for your business. 27:06 And if you don't have your own business, you should create one because now is the perfect time- I agree... to have your own business. Be your own- Yeah... solopreneur. Mm-hmm. Essentially, that's what we're doing. 27:16 We're solopreneurs. That's exactly what we're doing, yeah. And that's what we've been doing. On top of what you're saying. Yeah. You're not wrong, dude. You're not wrong. You need to learn AI, like you said. Mm-hmm. 27:23 You said that in a Space one time, in Twitter Spaces, you said, "People need to learn AI because they need to adapt to the change." Exactly. Don't be fearful about it, right? And I think that AI, our newest skill. 27:35 People have different skills, right? You're a artist, you're a writer. Sure. Our newest skill is communication. Mm. Believe it or not, because prompt communication is the newest skill set that we have to learn now. Yes. 27:46 You learn that skill, you basically essentially know every single job in the world today. I could prompt a job to do photoshopping. I could prompt a job to be a video editor. 27:55 I could prompt a job to basically do anything. Mm-hmm. Just understanding that communicated language between you and the artificial intelligence is really where we're aiming towards now at this point. 28:04 That's really what it is. That's huge. So learning how to communicate effectively- Correct... is the best way to know AI- Correct... and learn AI. I'm not gonna be a conspiracy theorist, guys- No, no, no... 28:14 but I have to throw it in here real quick. Sure. I have to throw this- Do it. Do it. Throw it in the comment if you think I'm wrong. [laughs] All right? But I think that today- Mm... 28:21 we're being desensitized by technology, um, by separating or segregating people with personal communication. Mm. And I think that that is where the lack of communication skills- Yeah... are being taken away from us. 28:38 And how if we don't sharpen that side, those that understand how to use artificial intelligence because they understand how to communicate- Right... 28:46 they still have that skill sharpened, those are the ones that are gonna succeed in taking our jobs. It's not AI, like you said. 28:52 It's those that are learning the actual language of computing or, uh, I would say the prompt communication language. Sure. Your prompt. Those are the ones that are gonna take over. Those are the ones. 29:04 But regardless of... Okay, okay, so just take AI out of the, the equation. Mm-hmm. Communicators. Mm-hmm. Uh, I've always seen great, effective communicators to always have a one leg up- Correct... in everything. Mm-hmm. 29:18 In everything. Our politicians, lawyers. Yeah. You know, it's like the list goes down, um, of, of, like, um, marketers- Mm-hmm... realtors. 29:27 You know, it's like there are certain professions out there that you need to know how to communicate effectively- Correct... to your audience. Mm-hmm. 29:34 Because if you don't know how to do that, how do you get ahead in life? Correct. How do you get to the next level? Correct. Or even, you know, creatives, like us. Mm-hmm. I agree. You know, knowing. 29:44 And it's like, how does one, and this is, this is great for the audience- Mm-hmm... how does one become a better communicator? Mm-hmm. It's very, it's very, uh- From your opinion. 29:54 I would say putting yourself in uncomfortable positions. Right? And I mean- Mm... circumstances rather, right? 30:00 Um, for example, I was never a person to speak in front of people at all, and I signed up to one of the biggest speaking, uh, conventions at NFT NYC, for example, where I spoke in front of tons of hundreds if not thousands of people. 30:12 In fact, right now we're speaking at ETHDenver 2026, and there's tons of people around us. Look. They don't care. [laughs] They don't care. But it goes to show you again, you have to sort of- They don't care... 30:22 break yourself out of that, that insecurity side of yourself, right? Mm. 30:26 You put yourself in a position that you think you can't fulfill, and when you actually put yourself in these positions that you think you can't do or fulfill- Right... 30:33 you actually kick into this different, uh, instinct that you have, this survival instinct, right? Right. Where you wind up pushing and putting things into effect that you never knew you could do. Mm. 30:43 When they say you have backs against the wall, you sort of do things that you never knew you had, these supernatural type of, uh, skills that you had hidden inside of yourself. 30:51 It's how you discover yourself, by putting yourself in front of positions or things or opportunities that you wouldn't normally do. See, I take upon certain jobs and [laughs] those that are watching this, 31:03 drop it in the comment again, right? [laughs] Right. Am I wrong or am I right? There's a lot of times that people will take jobs that they don't really know how to do. Right. 31:12 But it aligns a little bit in what they do already. And you know more or less what you're capable of. And if you know that you're capable of doing something, you trust yourself to do that- Mm... 31:24 or believe yourself to trust yourself to do that, right? Right. So put yourself in positions, guys, that you think you can't do. Believe me, I'm telling you. 31:32 When you go into these opportunities, you go putting yourself in these awkward moments, you wind up excelling. There's something that clicks into your mind. 31:40 There's like this dopamine effect that you just get this, this quick adrenaline rush- Hmm... that you wind up actually learning certain things on, right on the spot. Wow. On, on, at the moment, literally. Wow. 31:51 And that's how I learned a lot of my moments in my life. Yeah. Like, a lot of skills that I've done were from just me randomly saying, "Well, I could do that. Let me, yeah, I can do that. 31:59 Let me just, uh, I'll take that job." "When is it?" I said, "Tomorrow? Okay, I'll spend 24 hours studying how to do that job." And then 24 hours later from that, I'm at that job doing what I just learned in 24 hours. 32:12 Hmm. So again, it comes to understanding how to do research and sort of putting these, um, these understandings of skills into effect by just understanding what needs to be done. Right. Educating yourself. 32:24 You can't depend on other people to educate you or look at others at what they're doing, because what they're doing may not really work for you. You are your own being. Your own world is around you. 32:33 Like, you are your own, uh- [laughs]... entity. It sounds crazy, but it's the truth. Like- Yeah. Yeah, it does... we all live our own personal bubble. We do. 32:40 And what may work for the next person may not necessarily work for you. Hmm. You can take that concept and mold it to your version, but initially, we all live a different life cycle or- We do... 32:50 timeline, whatever you wanna call it, guys. Correct me again. Throw it in the t- throw in the chat. [laughs] Throw it in the chat. I, I think more than anything it's just being comfortable being uncomfortable. Mm-hmm. 32:58 Right? Mm-hmm. And trying hard things. I agree. I agree. And being okay with failing. Yeah. I fail a lot. And it's okay. Yeah. I mean, I failed this morning. See? I, I could tell you how. Wanna know how? 33:12 [laughs] I could tell you how, right? I, I'm the- Hmm... founder of VidaTV. Yes. I have a team. Yes. And one of the biggest things as a founder is that you are the leader of the pack in a way. Hmm. 33:24 You have to set by example. Right. And this morning I didn't set by example, right? What happened? And I won't get too much into it, but- What happened? I, I wanna know now. [laughs] All right. 33:34 What happened this morning? All right. Spill the beans. [laughs] I'll tell you. Sure. So one of our team members, and if you know our team, he begins with a K, ends with a B. I do. [laughs] I'm aware, I'm aware. Right? 33:45 Uh, and maybe ends with a H, actually, right? Didn't show up or wake up on time. But again, it's not about waking up on time, it's about- Yeah... us being punctual, right? Yeah. 33:53 It's about us being a team and looking out for one another. Right. We need to help each other grow and elevate, and by doing that- Hmm... 34:00 is by being on top of someone who may not have that same punctuality or that same skill set, right? Mm-hmm. That is what creates a real leader, someone that stops and helps people- Right... 34:12 no matter the circumstances, right? See, a lot of people told me one time, why, why w- oh, my guy, my boy, my guy, guys. [laughs] You gonna, we're gonna edit this later. 34:20 You're gonna know why, you're gonna know why I did that later. I hate editing. Shout out to Mutant Infusions. What up? [laughs] In the house, baby, yes. Uh, but that's my good friend, guys. Yeah. 34:27 I, I know so many people. Me and Crypto Cam- Yes... we know a lot of people. We do. So some people just pop up, but- It's part of our job, honestly. Yeah, it is. It is. 34:34 [laughs] It, it threw me off a little, but I was excited to see him. Ah. [laughs] But, um, just to sort of recalibrate what we were talking about- Yeah... 34:41 and, um, just talk a little bit about my life again, just to- Yes... sort of reset that so people can- Of course... actually learn a little more. Mm-hmm. Uh, 33 years old. Right. 34:49 I might've said that already, but- You look great... 33. Thank you, thank you, thank you. [laughs] 33 going on 34. Yeah. Born August 15, 1991. I'm a Leo. Oh. Yes, I'm a summer baby. Is that, is that- I, I love the heat. 35:00 For those that know me, I'm very Caribbean, so- Great... don't ever invite me to places that are cold. I know I live in New York. I know. I was gonna say. [laughs] It's a contradiction. 35:07 [laughs] But I think this is why I travel a lot now, right? Oh, I see. I, I'm, I'm global. You should be down in Florida. When are you gonna move, bro? Come on. Hey, listen, man. Florida, man. It's calling your name. 35:14 Hey, don't say it too loud, all right? But- What's up, what's up... we might be at Consensus Miami. I'm just saying. Oh. You heard it- Nice, nice... on Crypto Fam Radio first. Yeah, we might be at Consensus Miami, so. 35:25 That's exciting. Big shout out to one of our sponsors, Disco Cat Vodka, that- There you go... may be out there as well, so shout out to him and, uh, and shout out to them, actually. Right. It's a big team behind it. 35:32 Shout out to them. I love that. And, uh, yeah- Great... man, just seeing this transition of life. Yeah. You know? 35:38 It's such a rapid change that we can actually experience certain things from being sick from one day to losing people to another- Hmm... or beautiful things happening as well. 35:46 All of that is what I lived in the past four years in crypto. Uh, I've been in crypto for eight years, but the last four years in crypto were like the pivoting point in my life, right? Yeah. 35:56 Started off in a spot called Decentraland. Right. The Metaverse. Right. Uh, VidaTV originated in the Metaverse. It was supposed to be a television media distribution network that exists only- Right... in the Metaverse. 36:09 Right. Which it still does, right? And for, for those who don't know, what is the Metaverse exactly? Okay, so good catch. Good catch. So the Metaverse is basically a 3D synthetic world, right? 36:19 And I say synthetic because it's a replica of anything you want it to be, right? I can replicate this whole East Denver in a 3D model, which essentially that's what it is. Mm-hmm. 36:28 And an avatar walks within this 3D model. Those that are outside that are architects or you do construction, you actually use this system. It's called 3D modeling, right? 36:40 And a lot of you guys use Blender, for example, which is an application to use or create a 3D model. Mm-hmm. 36:46 And those that are out there that are listening to this, and if you do this and you don't know that you can make money today in the Metaverse by designing skins, like clothing, digital clothing, or even worlds. 36:57 Yes, virtual real estate is a thing. I own a lot of virtual real estate inside Decentraland and other worlds like Otherside, which is the Bored Ape Yacht Club. Nice. You can see I'm representing my ape right here. 37:07 I see that. Shout out to the Bored Ape Yacht Club. Looking good. Looking- Ape chain, I see you, baby. [laughs] That's awesome. Yeah, but yeah, that's what we do, man, and, um- Yeah. Love it... 37:14 those builders out there, hop on it, man. That's amazing. Hop on it. You guys got a lot of money in front of you, you just don't know it. They do. Yeah. They do. Okay, so we've established the Metaverse. Mm-hmm. 37:22 So going back to VidaTV- Right... and how it was created, the inception of it- Right... was through the Metaverse experience. Yes. And then IRL Events, tie that in. 37:29 So we, uh, we built this Metaverse concept with the idea of trying to build a television network, right? Right. Uh, this television network, we created s- servers- Mm... that are M3U8 streaming servers. 37:42 These are the servers that you use on televisions or on streaming platforms today, and these servers, we provide these servers. Mm. Unlimited amount of them. 37:50 We pro- that, we provide them at a rate that no one really provides them at, 20 bucks a month, right? You can stream unlimited amount 24/7 for just 20 bucks a month. Wow. These servers cost about 150 plus a month. Yeah. 38:01 So we're trying to help the community to migrate into blockchain that are streamers or that do media- Mm... that have some sort of media streamline, right? So there, that idea kicks into effect. 38:12 We create our, our media broadcasting line with the servers that double up with people like yourself, where you can actually own a server from our network, and this podcast could've been streamed on VidaTV- Nice... 38:25 in the Metaverse, in all these virtual lands that have- Wow... giant televisions and different movie theater styles or whatever the design structure is, right? Yeah. 38:33 Essentially, each of those lands host a stream- Right... which we own a lot. We won't say too much, but we own a lot of land across these, uh, these virtual worlds and- Crazy... 38:42 even partners of ours, like Decentraland Brazil. Right. They gave us delegation to their land, so we operate and govern all of their land. Right. So VidaTV exists in their land, too. Gotcha. 38:53 So we have media distribution happening now in Brazil. Right. So th- the Brazil community members or demographic of people are seeing what we're doing. Mm. 39:02 So the idea is to create this main media distribution network that's not just pushing media- Yeah... but we're pushing marketing, article writing. 39:11 Anything that you can think of of a journalism background and media background is being pushed into our network, and that's essentially what we wanna build is the next version of decentralized media, real media. 39:24 Not that CNN filtered- Fake news stuff. Yeah. I was gonna say that, but- You can say it. [laughs]... not that f- not that CNN fake filtered- Fake news... you know? [laughs] We need that real, real news. That true press. 39:34 Yeah. We need that real [laughs] we need that real m- that real media, right? [laughs] Trump said it best before. He calls out a lot of people, and I won't say their names. Mm-hmm. But he calls out- Right... 39:42 a lot of people for being fake news. Right, right. And he's onto something. He's onto something, so- Been saying it for years. [laughs] Trump, if you're watching this, decentralize media. Do it. 39:51 Yes, Crypto Fam and VidaTV. Let's do it. We are them, they are us. Remember that, all right? [laughs] Always. Always. Do you ever feel like you're a bit ahead of your time? Yeah, yeah. With this whole, like- Yeah. 40:04 Hell yeah... you know? I'll give you an idea what happened a long time ago- Mm... about this being ahead of time thing. Yeah. And I, and again, I'm not doing this to, like, badmouth nobody, but- Sure... 40:13 Johnson Security is a company I used to work with back in the days. Yeah. And they're amazing people. Shout out to D. Coop, uh, the owner, one of the founders of, uh, Sec- Johnson Security as well. Yeah. 40:22 Um, those people one time, they denied me. I worked for them afterwards, but they denied my application as a security worker. I was a security guard a long time. It was like one of my first jobs. Wow. Okay. 40:34 This actually was my first job, and, uh, on my business card, I put a QR code, and this was, we're talking about 2010, 20- 2009. Yeah. 40:42 And I put a QR code, and I gave them my business card with a QR on it, and I said, "Look, scan the QR. Everything's there. My, uh, my resumes are there, my welcome letters, everything's there, my contacts. 40:55 All you can think of is on that QR code." Right. And they told me, "You out of your mind. This is so unprofessional. This is, like, the worst thing I've ever seen in my life. Like, you're not ready. 41:06 You gotta go back to school." Literally, that- that's what they told me. Like, I, if I'm lying, I... [laughs] Listen, I'm not lying. Listen, they said, "QR codes, are you serious? What is this crap?" 41:16 Here we are today, and I know they're gonna see this. I know they're gonna see this. [laughs] And I'm sure their whole office is full of QR codes. Oh, I'm sure. The world is full of QR codes. Now. 41:27 The QR codes have been around for over 10 years. Dude, it's crazy. Yeah, they're everywhere. It's crazy. Yeah. Everyone uses them. 41:33 To say that it was something that was far-fetched or was unprofessional, I'm in ETHDenver right now- Yeah... at one of the biggest crypto conventions happening right now, and there's QR's everywhere. Everywhere. 41:44 So I think that's one reason or one way I was ahead of time that I could prove- That's true... again, media, streaming media into the Metaverse. Right. It happens 24/7. 41:55 If you go right now to Decentraland, we're streaming... Well, I turned it off now, but we were streaming what was happening here. Right. 42:01 So anyone can hop into Decentraland, Hyperfy, Otherside, which you can't stream on Otherside yet, but- Yeah... 42:06 this, these are platforms that are Metaverse platforms that you can watch a broadcast within the Metaverse, within this virtual world. That's crazy. Crazy stuff, man, honestly. That's crazy. Yeah. That's crazy. 42:17 So let's say I'm a normie. Mm-hmm. And I know nothing about the Metaverse. You've just introduced me to the Metaverse. How do I get involved? See, that's a very... 42:28 See, that's the biggest huddle or hurdle that we have now today, right? Mm-hmm. The biggest hurdle today is that the simplicity side- Mm... of crypto isn't that simple, right? [laughs] It's not. It's not. It sucks. 42:38 It sucks. Yeah. I mean, truthfully, it does. Like- It does... you can't really get a normie to buy a crypto coin in the same way that I can get them to buy something off Amazon. Right. It's not that easy. 42:49 It's not that easy. It's not just a click, one click, one buy. You know, you got the- Yeah... one click, one buy feature. That's it. Two steps. Yeah. Two steps. That's it. In blockchain- Less friction. Correct. 42:57 The friction, that's what it is. 42:58 There's too many layers of steps that you have to do to complete one task or one action, and I think that as enthusiasts of blockchain and the developing side of crypto- We need to focus on creating a more simple- Mm... 43:13 user interface, and the biggest part is accessibility. Mm. Accessibility has been the biggest issue in crypto and blockchain- Mm-hmm... where people can't access the Metaverse. 43:23 Either you need a new computer that's strong with a graphic card, or you can't access the Metaverse yet on the mobile version, or it's only available on VR. 43:32 It's the interoperability, ease of accessibility, and of course, the simplicity. 43:37 Three di- those are the three biggest steps that can create success in any business when it comes to blockchain, or building a business on blockchain. I'll do you one better: KISS, keep it simple, stupid. 43:47 [laughs] Hey, I like that one. [laughs] I like that one. Learn that marketing 101. Yeah. [laughs] Like, seriously, man. It's- I like that... and, and that, that's with just traditional web two businesses. Oh, so simple. 43:58 Like, just startups, just an idea, someone with an idea that, "Oh, I wanna turn this into a product." Yeah. "I wanna turn this into a service," or whatever. I'm like, "Okay, what's your offer?" Yeah. 44:09 All right, and then what's your hook? Yeah. All right, and then, then how do you lead them into and get them to buy? Yeah. Because that's essentially what marketing's, marketing is. Yeah. 44:17 It's solving that problem for the user- Correct... for the buyer, and is this going to help them, or is it not going to help them? Yeah. Because if it's not, it's distraction marketing. Correct. Agree. 44:27 Like, we all know that. Agree. And they don't need that in their life. Yeah. And they don't need to be talking to you, obviously. Like, they, they check out. So it's like, 44:35 it's finding an audience that resonates with your mission and bringing them into the fold of, "This is how I can help you. This is how I can serve you." Right. "This is how I can make your life better," right? 44:47 Mm-hmm, I agree. And I think the Metaverse can do that. Mm-hmm. But there's some barriers. Still, yeah. And if we can somehow, you know, overcome those barriers to a point where it's like scanning a QR code- Yeah... 45:00 I'm in the Metaverse now- Yeah... because I scanned this QR code. Mm-hmm. Why can't- It, it can be done... well, why, why isn't it, why isn't it like that yet? 45:08 So again, I, the problem is that a lot of people that are in crypto already- Mm... they have a lack of, um... Not all of them, but- [laughs] I had to, had, I had to, I ha- I had an e- The way you said that, bro. 45:21 [laughs] I had to stop myself real quick, all right? I had to stop, 'cause I know someone will drop a comment on that, like, "Oh, look at Vida. He thinks he's hot shit now." Nah, it ain't even like that, right? 45:29 [laughs] It's far from that. Like, I, I'm still, I'm still a nobody. You're right here, bro. [laughs] I'm still a tag pole in this whole crypto thing, right? 45:36 [laughs] I'm far from being anyone, but- [laughs] You're right... I think that today, [laughs] they have, they struggle- Hmm... with being creative. You think so? It, trust me so. Really? Trust me so. I like that one. 45:46 Trust me so. Trust me so. The truth is- Okay... that I've seen people- Hmm... that I do things, and- Yeah... they, like, overlook it, and then- [laughs]... 45:53 10 months from now they're like, "I just came up with this amazing idea, and here it is." Uh-huh. And I'm like, "Wasn't this the same thing that I just showed you, like, 10 months ago?" Yeah. 46:01 Again, it just comes down to a lack of awareness, right? Hmm. So sometimes people want to be the first at doing certain things, so they're not too much attentive of what happens around them. Okay. 46:12 And those that are in the ecosystem- Right... there's a lot of bad actors out here. Oh, yeah. So a lot of these bad actors, they portray to be someone or something to the community, and they're not really that. Right. 46:25 And I'm, again, I'm not here to single no one. I'm not, in, in fact, I'm not even talking about no one, so just, no one that's seen this- So chill, guys, chill. [laughs]... don't twist, yeah, don't twist my words. 46:34 Please don't twist my words. I'm speaking generally, right? Mm-hmm. From what I see from the communities that- Yeah... exist in blockchain. Yeah. Um, it's a lack of understanding of being creative. Hmm. 46:43 See, you have to really be creative to help evolve something or create awareness of something. Right. For example, in Hyperfy, I figured out how to make three different Metaverse worlds exist in the one Metaverse. Wow. 46:56 So you don't have to leave that Metaverse world or scene. 47:00 You can be in that same world or scene and still be in three other worlds and communicate through that one scene out to those three worlds, if that makes any sense. I, i- it, it's, you see what I mean, right? 47:11 [laughs] It's complex. Like- You gotta break it down. Break it down. [laughs] If anyone that's watching this can write in the comments right now what I just said step by step- [laughs]... I'll hook you up with something. 47:22 And if you do, you're just one of many chosen ones, right? Right, right. You're the one percenters that understand. Yeah. But that's the part, that we talk about, it's not simple. It's not simple. It's not simple- No... 47:31 but you also don't have to reinvent the wheel. You see what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. If it works, it works. And sure, if someone copies you, whatever, but it's like, I'm sure you copied that idea from someone else. 47:41 Like, let's be real. Of course. Every song we see today was remade. Right? Exactly. Exactly. So it's like, if you wanna be successful in crypto, you don't have to reinvent the wheel. 47:50 You just have to put some effort- Correct, correct... and follow through and be consistent- Mm-hmm... and, like, show up. Mm-hmm, that's the hard part. That is the hard part. Consistency. That is the hard part. 48:00 A lot of people sell dreams. [laughs] So like I tell people, I'm just being honest, 'cause the crypto world- Yeah... 48:04 is brutal, is brutal, and I, and I'm being straightforward 'cause people come in and they're like, "Well, I can come into the blockchain, create my own business or create a NFT project, and become rich." 48:15 It doesn't really work like that. And when I came into blockchain- But it's perceived to work like that, isn't it? But, well, that's how I came in. It's perceived, right? I thought I was gonna take a picture. 48:22 You make a lot of money. Just put your money in this token. It's gonna boom. It's gonna go up. This mar- it's gonna b- explode. Correct. And then you're gonna make it, uh- And then you get burned... just, just like that. 48:29 You get burned. And then, and then you get rugged, yes. And then what happens when you get burned, though? When you get rugged, like, you sort of lose confidence. Of course. Right? 48:36 So that's, that's what's happening right now. Of course, 'cause you lost your money. It's, it's a casino. I don't wanna ta- You lost money... I don't wanna talk bad about the meme coins, but- You can. I don't care. Okay. 48:43 [laughs] Can I? Okay, sure. So if that's the case- Talk bad about the meme coins. [laughs] Meme coiners, I love you guys. I really do, but damn- It's all paper... you guys just- Paperware. [laughs]... 48:54 fucked up the whole market, guys. Thought you gonna have to bleep that out, but you messed up the whole marketplace, guys. I'm not cutting that. The truth is, you messed it up. [laughs] And I'ma tell you why. Hmm. 49:04 Because these big Fortune 500 companies or organizations or- Mm... 49:08 investors that would like to invest in a company that's on blockchain, that has a crypto coin, is not gonna do it now because- You meme coiners just fucked it up. Yeah. You rugged them. You, you made... 49:19 You sold them a dream, gave them a perception of what possibly can come from what your investment is, and you just stole their dream- Mm... that you pitched to them. So what happens now? 49:30 You b- you actually oversaturate the, the network or the community- Mm... with this false narrative. Right. For example, when you hear, when you hear pump that fun, what do you think of? Oh, casino. 49:45 It's a, it's a casino, essentially. Casino. People, people get rugged. People get taken advantage of all the time. All the time. All the time. And, and do you wanna be taken advantage of? No, of course not. 49:55 And especially those that work 9:00 to 5:00, that they have to put in 40 hours a week to make a certain amount of money. Like, come on. 50:03 If you don't have a good job and you're trying to get out of this poverty state, or you're trying to become somewhat more successful, whether it's being rich or just being all right or okay, you can't. Right. 50:14 If you're not investing into the right thing, you're investing into something that's stealing the money that you worked hard for. Hence to why I say, do your own research. Because you can't just buy any NFT, any coin. 50:27 There has to be true meaning and value behind that coin. Has to. You gotta have a community behind that token. Bored Apes. [laughs] I'm just kidding. There you go. I don't wanna [laughs]... You're just like- Yeah... 50:36 promoting Bored Apes. [laughs] I got a Bored Ape. Yeah. Le- let's talk about Bored Apes real quick. [laughs] Might as well, right? 50:42 Why, why do you care so much about this community, and how has it changed your life, Vito? It was... Okay, so ever since I heard about blockchain- Yeah... 50:49 ever since I found out about NFTs, the grail of NFTs was always a Bored Ape. Right. Right? Like- Right... I saw these monkeys, and I was like, "What the heck is so cool about these monkeys?" 50:58 [laughs] Like, why, why buy a monkey for, like- Yeah... 30 Gs or- Wait, wait, it's not a monkey, it's an ape. It's an ape. All right. But that- That's very different. [laughs] I'm, I'm getting to that. Okay, yeah. 51:07 Because that's, that's the beginner's mindset. Right. They're not understanding. Mm. They just see, again, a monkey. They're like, "Oh, look at this monkey." Yeah. No, no. 51:13 Once you become more involved into this crypto world, you do your research- Right... you wind up understanding. It's in the name. Right. The Bored Apes Yach- the Bored Ape Yacht Club, so they're apes, of course. Yeah. 51:25 But this is what the normies see. Right. What is this monkeys, whatever the case is. Curious George is the association they get with it. Right. So many people are like- Yeah, yeah... "You guys are buying 51:34 i- images that look like Curious George." No, they don't. They're far from that, right? Mm-hmm. So now, what is the true value about this? Right. Why I'm so bullish on the Bored Ape Yacht Club- Yeah... 51:43 it's a community that empowers people and builders- Mm... that are in blockchain. Right. That community is a real community. Mm. And when I say a real community, I mean by support system-wise, right? Right. 51:56 Communication is key to anything- Yep... whether it's a business relationship, whether it's a loving relationship, right? An affectionate relationship with a couple. 52:06 Whatever the case is, your son, any relationship however it is, communication is the number one key of success within that relationship, right? Yes. And again, Bored Ape- Totally... Yacht Club, they did that. 52:19 They communicate- Wow... with each and every member. No matter how many members are there- Yeah... they will take the time to reach out, communicate with you. Mm. 52:26 You have any necessities or any needs, they're gonna reach out to you. You can reach out to them, and they'll contact right back. Wow. That's the best part about it. Now- That's incredible... 52:34 why I'm so bullish about it is because they have ess- uh, essentially benefits, right? Something called a Made by Apes program. You ever heard about that? No. Good. Tell me. I'ma talk about it now, right? 52:46 [laughs] Sounds good. So Made by Apes, it's a licensed program that is created with the Yuga Labs and the Bored Ape Yacht Club. Right. 52:53 This program basically accredits people who hold a license from the Bored Ape Yacht Club program called the Made by Apes. Right. 53:00 So I own a Made by Apes license, which is basically an accredit, a validation through Yuga Labs and the Bored Ape Yacht Club that you hold a Bored Ape, first and foremost. 53:10 So it's all the Ape holders that are on that registry. Right. 53:13 But it's a registry of service providers, whether you're a business owner, a service provider, or you're providing a business development project, whether it's an NFT project or a coin. 53:25 If you own an Ape, you can sign up to get a Yuga license, which is the Made by Apes license, right? Gotcha. Now, it protects your intellectual property, your IP. Okay. IP, okay. Which you can use now to create clothing. 53:37 Y- this is how I got this clothing, right? I'm able to use my Bored Ape now as my own brand logo. Oh. So now the Bored Ape- Okay... Yacht Club, who created these NFT images- Right... 53:47 is licensing me the right to use the image that they created on my own use case. Interesting. So I can profit from it- Right, right... without having to give them a percentage. Correct. So that's how that works. Gotcha. 54:00 That's the whole purpose of having it. That makes sense. That makes sense. There's protection of intellectual property, but it also puts you on a registry. Gotcha. 54:05 That registry, believe it or not, a lot of the crypto market or blockchain market, um, they look at these registries to hire service providers- Right... 54:13 or anyone that they're looking for because of the acredi- the accredited background of the Bored Ape Yacht Club and Yuga Labs. Right. It's such a strong, um, validation of who they are and their credibility. 54:24 If you're part of that program, you're also being respected with that same credibility. Wow. That's huge. Which opened the door for me, honestly. That's huge. It changed my life. 54:32 I don't, I don't know a lot of communities that are actually doing that. Mm-mm. Do, do you know any other community- Um... or is that Bored, Bored- I'll spill the, I'll spill the beans right now. Yeah. 54:41 There's, there's over 20,000 Ape holders, right? Okay. On this registry, there's only 500 people. 54:48 So that means a lot of you that are watching this out here right now, if you own a Ape, you should be going to the Made by Apes website. 54:55 If you have a business, a brand, a project, anything, you should be opening up a license to represent your brand. This even goes for those who own real physical businesses. Hm. 55:05 My friend who was just here, the co-founder- Yeah... of Yuga TV, Ernesto, owns a driving company called Sober Pro. Right. And what they do is they drive people who are drunk from their bars- In their car Mm. 55:18 So this way they don't have to get a taxi service or leave their car behind and do two or three trips and waste a lot of money to get their car. Plus, it saves them a night to go to jail. There you go. 55:26 Don't have to go to jail, right? That sounds like a good deal to me. [laughs] Correct. So now here's the beautiful part about- Yeah... being a Made by Apes holder. Mm. He doesn't own a ape. Hm. I own the ape. Right. 55:36 But he is the co-founder of VidaTV. Right. So what does that mean? Through the Made by Apes program, you're able to sub-lease, just like a franchise type of option- Really?... 55:46 your IP to anyone who may not even hold- Huh... a ape. So with that being said- Interesting... when are we gonna have a Crypto Fam Radio Bored Ape NBA? [laughs] I don't know. I'm gonna think about it. 55:59 I'm gonna make it right now. We'll talk about it. [laughs] I'm gonna throw it on the air right now. [laughs] Throw it in the chat. Sounds plausible. Sounds plausible. 56:04 Um, definitely would love more talks about that, but yeah, I could totally see that, envision in- Yeah... the future because I'm always open to collaborations. I'm always open to partnerships- Yeah... 56:14 if it makes sense, obviously. Oh, yeah. Good. But, you know, that, that definitely sounds something that I'd be highly interested in, so yeah. Definitely. Yeah, definitely. Tell me more. 56:21 The door's open for you, brother, always. Yeah, always. Tell me more. Always open. If anyone that's out there too- [laughs]... you can always reach out to us, VidaTV- Yeah... Crypto Fam Radio. 56:28 Don't think that because we're just journalists or we're- Mm... media guys, press, that we don't care about communities. We do. We build communities as well. We help educate communities on blockchain. 56:39 So we're not just here to capture the moment- Right... or take your picture. [laughs] We're here to actually educate you on blockchain. At least I am, and I know he is as well. I've- Always... been to his spaces a lot. 56:49 This guy's the shit, guys. Always do. Oh, he is. He is. You're, you're, you're too kind. [laughs] But it's like that's our whole vision is educating, inspiring, and also entertaining, right? Correct. Yeah. 56:58 Like, we're also entertainers. Yeah. We have to because we need those- That's right... those eyes. Yeah. We need that audience. Like, who's gonna listen to us, obviously? [laughs] I agree. I agree. You're not lying. 57:07 You're not lying. There, there, there's people everywhere that are just wanting to listen, wanting to learn, wanting to grow. If you're a human being, you should be pushing yourself every single day to- Yeah... 57:20 learn, so you can earn, and then return back to your community. You're right. Right? Like, that's huge. That's part of human, that's a part of human growth, right? 57:26 I mean, human evolution is about becoming a better version of yourself day by day. Mm. That's why they say, "Look at what you did yesterday, learn from what you did, and become a better version of that tomorrow." 57:36 Exactly. So it's just, that's just what life is about. That's all what life is about. Life is exactly about that metamorphosis, right? You evolve. And ment- I mentioned that earlier when I was- Mm-hmm... 57:44 going through my struggles. Right. Right. That I was looking for myself, right? Mm-hmm. I was finding who I was, and in that transition I became many versions of myself. Right. It sounds crazy, right? 57:56 And no, [laughs] oh, my God. What do you mean versions? Like- So many people are gonna say, "He must be crazy." [laughs] "He must have split personality disorder." No, no, no, no. 58:05 Like a version in the Metaverse, then the version IRL, and the version on a different platform. [laughs] On all universes. In, in, in all universes. All univer- Yeah... I'm like thinking of Avengers now, you know? Yeah. 58:15 Like how they all went into these different verses- Yeah... or different worlds. Yeah. Was it this world splitting or... I, I don't know what they call it, but- No, hypothetically speaking, it felt that way, bro. Really? 58:25 It felt that way. Honestly, like I, I believe in this conspiracy theory, I'm gonna throw it out there, that whatever you perceive- Mm... or yeah, whatever is your perception becomes your vision, right? Right. 58:37 So what you perceive, your perception is your... Uh, it just left me right now, but whatever you're actually seeing becomes your reality. Right. Right? So one's perception becomes one's real-life existence. Right. 58:50 So whatever you see is what you endorse to become rela- uh, re- realistically real in your life. So remember, thoughts and words become realism. Whatever you say, whatever you think becomes a real thing. 59:03 You call it the laws of attraction. Right? Mm. So just keep in mind when people say certain things joking around, you're actually calling that, believe it or not. Right. 59:13 I, I sometimes say things without certain things actually happening. And I say, "Hey, Vid, we own, uh, such and such," or, "We own a Bored Ape." Right. "Oh, we didn't, we didn't have one yet." 59:25 But I knew I was gonna have one. Mm. Right? Very close. W- I'm not gonna say something, like, years from now. No. I'm gonna say something that I wanna manifest 'cause I'm close to it. Right. And I'm gonna manifest that. 59:35 Right. 59:36 So that's why I always tell people, "Believe what you want, see what you want, and speak what you want," because those three things, that, that calling and that perception of, of viewing something to be it, I walk around like I already own a million dollars. 59:49 I walk around like VidaTV is a billion-dollar company. I walk around thinking that I'm known already around the world because when you walk like that, you set off this energy, this aura- Mm... 59:58 that people just gravitate- Gravitate... to your thought. Yeah, I was gonna say. And they perceive you- Yeah... to the thought that you're sending out. We are antennas. 1:00:07 Just like we are emitting frequencies, we can receive those frequencies. Mm-hmm. Whatever we give to the world, the world will give back to you. So that's my two cents a little bit on laws of attraction. 1:00:18 I wake up every day doing this, bro. I'm, I'ma be a, the best version of myself. I'ma be the best father. I'ma be the best team member, team player. Everything that I can think of that's positive, I say it to myself. 1:00:30 What they call that, an affirmation? Yes. Right? Affirmations are huge. They're huge. They're huge. Yeah. I believe in it. I believe in it, bro. I believe in affirmations. It's true. It's very much true. Yeah. Honestly. 1:00:39 That's, uh, one of the five, five love languages, actually. Is it? Affirming. Oh, yes. You're right. Remember? You're right. This I lo- Oh, say it again one more time for the people. [laughs] They have to hear it. 1:00:49 What, what, what, the love languages? Yeah. Yeah, affirmations. And... Oh, the kiss actually. Uh, what? The- Physical touch? You said the, you said the kiss word, or was it... 1:00:57 You said these four words that- Um, there, there's five different love, five love languages. Okay. But one of them being affirmation. Affirmation. That's one of- Okay... the love languages- Okay... that you exhibit. 1:01:07 So how that works is when you're in a relationship with someone, you know, you exhibit certain, you know, traits or certain qualities- Okay... 1:01:15 that are more significant or more, more higher on, let's say, your end when you're- Spending time, like quality time is another love language- Correct, it is... essentially, right? 1:01:24 And so, um, when you're in a relationship with someone, you will exhibit certain, you know, love languages higher than other ones. You know? Like, uh, gift giving's another one. Right. Right? 1:01:34 And so I've always, through my experience, been through the many relationships I have, um, it's always been the top two, mine has been quality time. Mm-hmm. Right? Quality time. Of course. And affirmations. 1:01:47 Time is the best one though. Because I love... Well, and I love af- being affirmed. Mm-hmm. Like, like, who doesn't? Of course. Like, let's be real. Of course. 1:01:52 Like, if you know you're doing something right, you don't wanna keep, you know, affirming yourself- Yeah... because then you become too full of yourself- Mm-hmm... 1:01:58 and then people kind of resonate with that- It's also a man trait though... and then they don't wanna talk. Right. It's also a male trait 'cause we always love to feel appreciated. [laughs] Yeah, women do as well though. 1:02:06 [laughs] No, but not only for women. Not only for women though. They love to be appreciated. [laughs] I'm thinking for like... It's not only about women though. It's not about the women side. 1:02:12 I'm saying- Just humans in general- Correct... love to be appreciated. Correct. I guess. Yeah. But in, in the male side of things, right? Hmm. We as male sometimes- Right... 1:02:19 don't get that accredited side of, of being successful or good at something, right? Right. It's just, it's just- Well, we're so hard on ourselves too. Correct, correct. That's the thing. We're our worst own critic. 1:02:28 Correct. Right? Correct. I mean, in the Latin- So-... community world, I'm, I'm Dominican, again, like I said. I'm Hispanic. Right. Yeah. In our culture, we're told to suppress. Hmm. 1:02:37 So sometimes the men cannot actually speak or be who they wanna be, 'cause we have to act a certain way. That's sad. And, and it's, it is. Because once you don't break out that mindset- Yeah... 1:02:49 you cannot be really the full version of who you are. Right. Because you're not really who you are. [laughs] Right. You know what I'm saying? You're acting to be someone that you're not. Hmm. 1:02:57 So when I always tell people their background, sometimes they tell me, "Oh, I'm Hispanic." Well, I say, "Well, break out that mindset," because it's the machismo mindset. That's what they call it. Hmm. 1:03:08 Machismo basically means, like, um, our fathers. Oh. Our male figures- Got it... will tell us, "You're a man. You can't cry. Suck it up. I- Don't s- I cannot see no tears." 1:03:18 So you have to, like, you're in pain, but you're like, you gotta suck it up. Now you're like, "Oh, man, I can't cry." Suck it up. "I'm a, I gotta be a man." Shake it off. 1:03:25 Gotta shake it off, but they put you- I've heard that... they, they put this mindset that- Yeah... you're not a man or, or you're not this, this alpha figure, right? Hmm. It doesn't have to be a man. 1:03:33 You're just not a alpha figure, right? And I think that's the misconception. It is. It's a, it's a huge misconception. And, and it, it is really detrimental to a lot of people- For the men... 1:03:42 on the way they see, yeah, the way they see life, the way how their social skills evolve, right? Right. Because they become a little bit more enclosed. Right. Right? I, I think that... You know what? 1:03:52 I think I just might have solved the issue. What issue? This is crazy. I mean, we're doing this all live. This, none of this is pre-script, by the way, guys. Remember when I told you that growing up I was an introvert? 1:04:03 Yes. And sometimes I had this insecurity. Yeah. It came and made from stem- made it stem from that. Yeah. From the machismo. Oh. Being raised around these older men- Right... 1:04:16 that have these expectations of a child to be a man. Oh, right. So you can't act like a certain way- Yeah... 1:04:22 because then you're deemed to be weak or you're deemed to be less of whatever the case they're trying to talk about, right? Yeah. So I think that's where that stems from. It's- That's huge. Yeah. 1:04:32 So it, it goes to show you- Yeah... that those that are out there that are using this perception of mindset with their children, break that cycle. It's not a good cycle. No, you gotta break it. 1:04:44 We just, we just found that out right now live on Crypto Fam Radio. Damn. That's what it is. That's crazy. That is- It really is... that's insane. It really is. Wow. Yeah. 1:04:51 As we're winding down this interview, and let me just say I've had an incredible experience with you. Yeah. Likewise, brother. Like, I really appreciate it. Thank you. Sure. But a few, few last questions- Yeah. Gotcha... 1:05:00 I have before we end, which I'm, I'm sad we're, we're towards the end. [laughs] But at the same time, I feel like I know you so much better now- Yeah... Vida. 1:05:09 Like, I, I've seen- There's so much I haven't spoken about yet, so. And, and I really appreciate- Yeah... you opening up to me a- at such a very public- Yeah... space. No, dude. Love it. Like, this is, this is huge. 1:05:18 So I- I think the relationship we've built is very strong- Well, that helps... at this point. That definitely helps. Definitely. 1:05:23 But as we're winding down here, I just, I, I want you to maybe give the audience some advice of how to be a better communicator, of how to be, to have more courage. Okay. To be more themselves, to be more authentic. 1:05:38 Yeah. Because you're, I think you're one of the most authentic people I've ever met in crypto. Appreciate you, brother. Thank you. Like, seriously. Thank you for that. You're very Chris. You're very Vida. 1:05:47 [laughs] Yeah, man. You know? You're very, I don't know anyone like you, so maybe, like, just a few takeaways- Yeah... from just your experience, and I know you've mentioned, sprinkled throughout the interview already. 1:05:56 But just maybe reinforce of what you said- Yeah... or something you haven't said yet. Because I really want the audience to take away something of, like, real true value, because I know you're so, so valuable, Chris. 1:06:07 Sure. I appreciate you, man. So. Yeah, take it away. Like. I would say one thing only, and this is just an advice for other people that may just wanna walk my same road. Hmm. Maybe they walking the same road already. 1:06:16 Yeah. Or maybe just something that I said in this coverage resonated with them. Hmm. Don't be scared of who you are. Hmm. 1:06:25 Embrace who you are, because you were created to be who you are to continuously give back to what the world it needs. Everyone in this world was created for a reason. Nothing was by accident. 1:06:42 People say, "Oh, I ran into this person by accident." No. Everything in life has a cause and effect. Mm-hmm. So remember that. That's huge. Always trust yourself to be the best version of yourself. 1:06:54 Don't be scared to be doing things that make you uncomfortable or you think that you can't do. The strongest, the strongest roadblock and, and any barrier that any human can exist, in existence can have, is yourself. 1:07:09 Hmm. Your self-doubt. Believe it or not, self-doubting yourself is the worst and biggest black ball that can happen to anyone. So I will leave you guys with that. Don't be scared. Just go out there. 1:07:23 Try the things that you think you can't do. Try things that you don't know how to do. Life is about learning. It's about evolving. Evolution, right? We've seen it through the evolution of time with man. 1:07:35 Everything in life is about evolution. The internet, Web 1. We at Web 3. We can go from 480 or 360p, what TV and television used to be, to where we at now. What? 8K now or something. Everything has an evolution process. 1:07:52 So do you. Keep that in mind. I love that, and I think we'll just end it there, Chris. Thank you so much again- Thank you, Crypto Fam... for joining us. Dude, seriously, man. You're amazing. Love you, brother.
