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Mar 28, 2026
Asi Naci Budzy Buddy
Asi Naci Budzy Buddy
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1:03
[upbeat music] Thank you so much for joining me, uh, Asi Nasi. This has been a long time coming. Um, really excited to dig deep on your new beginnings for One Eleven Podcast.
1:20
And, uh, yeah, would you mind just introducing yourself? Um, tell me a little bit about who is Asi Nasi, just kind of a, a rough TLDR.
1:31
You know, we can kinda just start there and then, you know, I'll ask a few follow-ups. And yeah, just, just take me on a journey. Take me on a journey, fam. Okay. And, uh, also thank you so much for being here.
1:40
Really appreciate your last minute fill in for the guest that was supposed [laughs] to be here, but it's all good. It's all good. Yeah. But yeah, take it away, fam. That's what budzies do, bro. I appreciate you.
1:49
[laughs] Um, we're here to support each other- Always... especially our comrades, our friends. And, um, yeah, you said a little bit about me. I'm known as Asi Nasi, which means born like this in Spanish. Mm.
2:00
And a little bit about my background, I am, you know, American first, and my parents are Salvadorian, so, um, therefore I embrace the culture of being Latin.
2:09
And, um, so that goes onto the name Asi Nasi, which means born like this. And, um, that's just, uh, a mantra to myself to remind myself that I just have to be myself and be authentic- Mm... and just try your best.
2:23
That's why I refer to myself as Asi Nasi, 'cause we're all born just like this. And, um, that's a pretty much way to capsulate Asi Nasi and, I guess, what other parts would you like to know?
2:39
Where are you from originally? Oh, okay. So born and raised in Virginia. Mm. So specifically Falls Church. And I pretty much, you know, grew up on the combine. I like to say nine to five. I'm a true nine to fiver.
2:53
Um, I go on the interstate all the time. Um,
2:56
like DC, Maryland, Virginia, known as the DMV, it's a metropolitan area, so I've, you know, I think I like to say I excelled well in that, in those dynamics when it comes to, you know, um, work ethic, um, just, um...
3:11
What else is, what can I talk about? Um... Well, I like to say Virginia, they say it's, it's for lovers, and that's- Mm...
3:20
so far away from the part, because actually right there they like to pick at your faults, so you gotta have a tough shell. And, um, and if you have motion or success, they will pretty much not like that. So that's- Mm...
3:34
kinda weird about Virginia's for lovers, but they embrace, um, the struggle. So that's...
3:39
You know, if you're struggling, they'll support you, but as soon as you make it, have some sort of success, you start getting the, the tails ends of the hatred. Really? Yeah, it's really weird, bro, but- That is weird...
3:50
but that's Virginia. Oh. And Michelle, it's called Old Dominion for a reason, so it's one of the original states, the 13 original colonies. Right. So first is last, last is first.
4:00
That's why I love that state, honestly, Virginia. Um, other than that, my grandma's named Virginia as well, so I think that's why, one of the reasons why she migrated over here, um, during, um, El Salvador's civil war.
4:11
Okay. And we're just trying to establish ourselves and our presence in America, so that's pretty much what we're doing. Wow. So you come from an immigrant family. Yes. Well, a- as we do all. We are.
4:21
Like, let's say America- Melting pot... is a big melting... Exactly. Exactly. But, um, you could say, you know, you're first generation? Yeah, uh, first gen. Okay. Yep, first gen here, and I also have a brother. Okay.
4:34
And we're, he's two years younger than me, so we're here both trying to advocate, um, basically a foundation so we can, you know, carry on our, our legacy for just the generations to come.
4:46
We're big about working together and family. I love that. I love that. So it sounds like you have a lot of culture in your family. Yeah. You come very deep in your culture.
4:57
Would you mind just sharing with me a little bit about what makes you so proud about your culture and where you come from, and, and how does that really translate into who you are now as a, as an individual, as a person now?
5:10
Yeah. So America is made up of multiple languages. I like to say Spanish and English are m- one of the prominent languages. Mm-hmm.
5:19
So, um, thing I like about, you know, being a Latino is the fact that you can, you know, relate with other, um, dialects, other races.
5:28
And, um, especially with the culture, the American culture, we pretty much like to say we, um... How do I say? It's like a symbiotic relationship.
5:37
We love the fact that there's work here, and we're just willing to apply and, um, just showcase what we can do, and the fact that we're always given the opportunity. Um, there's pretty much nothing
5:52
bad I can talk about, other than, um, we're just everywhere and, um, some of us are misjudged when you should just give us a chance to get to know us. It's a little bit about translation, but- Mm...
6:03
um, Hispanics alwaysTake the time to learn English, and I feel like it should be the other way around 'cause I'm right here speaking this language. Right.
6:11
And, um, I would love for the Americans to speak our language more and have that more understanding. I love that. Yeah, I think everyone should be bilingual or even trilingual, you know?
6:21
It builds that layer within yourself, and it makes you a lot more dynamic as a person. You're able to reach more people through that, so I really love that. A- a- and I assume y- you speak Spanish and English, correct?
6:33
Yes. Okay. Pretty well? Los dos idiomas puedo hablar. Ah. Yeah. Más o menos. Pero para escribir, uh, necesito un poco ayuda, pero yo puedo leer más. Ah. Other than that, um... Beautiful. Uh, bro.
6:48
[laughs] I'm just grateful for this. I'm here. This is last minute. No, I'm grateful for you. And, um- No, I, I appreciate you filling in last minute, too.
6:55
And I, I want you to walk me a little through, um, your careers, you know, in the past. You know, we're, we're talking about new beginnings here. We feel like, you know, we're all onions.
7:03
We're peeling back the layers- Okay... essentially, right? So- So like an ogre, you know, I have layers. We all do. You ever seen- We all do. [laughs] Okay. So I guess a little bit of my background- So take me...
7:11
Yeah, yeah... my first, I guess- Or even early education onwards to, like, your first job, kind of like- Okay... you know. So I got my public high school diploma. Mm-hmm. So I embraced that, my PhD. Got that.
7:21
I also graduated from YouTube University. That's what honestly got me as far as I got right here. Um, I learned a lot from YouTube. Nice. I do a lot of hands-on. I'm a visual learner. Mm. And a little bit- Love that...
7:32
um, about my first job was in, you know, I was a busser for IHOP. Okay. So when it comes into having a strong work ethic, um, you can only...
7:41
That's, that, it was sh- shown right there because you can only get tips based on how many tables you have cleaned up. Right. And, um, I pretty much stuck with the restaurant business, so I did multiple, um...
7:52
I did Tropical Smoothie. I did, um, a few Mexican restaurants, you know, mom and pops, and then I did Cheesecake Factory. And what I learned from that was pretty much customer service- Mm-hmm...
8:03
and how to per, um, how to cater to one's, you know, wants and needs. And, um, yeah, and that's, that's what I love about that. Then about blue collar work, I did construction as well for a few years. Oh, wow.
8:13
I was a technician, and then also, um, metal refinishing. That's what I mainly did. Yeah. Fixed, um, primed, um, elevators. Um, also did, um, oxid- oxidizing metals, different colors, different tones and pigments. Hmm.
8:29
And then also before that, I also did a little bit of, um, in the private sector, government contracting. So I got into some, um, SBIRs.
8:38
The proposals didn't get funded, but I got pitches approved, so that pretty much gave me the, the Bitcoin bug to go into this technology. 'Cause, um, you know, when I was working with, um, this other...
8:51
one, one of my mentors from, from a few years ago- Mm-hmm... it was, you know, we were learning about AI and how it's one of the new areas of, of innovation, like, you know, like STEM technology.
9:03
So science, technology, education, and medicine, and those were the fields that I was, you know, trying to get involved with. So I landed on, you know, um, education and technology.
9:13
And we were just doing pitches and seeing what is out right now, and we found distributed ledger technologies, which is, you know, blockchain. And it's just a glorified database.
9:23
And we just started doing some more research in there and trying to make some concepts on some ideas that we can bring out.
9:28
And now that the technology has matured and seeing that everything has gained traction, we see that there's opportunity for us, um, to actually, you know, formulate and make partnerships and cooperations with other entities.
9:42
So that's why I'm here with you, crypto fam. You know- Right now... networking is your network, so. [laughs] Network is your net worth. That is huge, and yes, we are at E Denver. You can see behind us, fam.
9:53
We're at the podcast lounge, and I'm with my budzy over here as well, and I'm just very blessed, very grateful that he is here, um, willingly and openly to, to share us his story. And so in saying that, um,
10:10
you, you, you kind of went over it a little bit earlier, but with Bitcoin, but when did you start getting into crypto, and what made you so excited? Because that's where I met you- Yeah...
10:20
was at a crypto event, you know? So, uh, during Miami and Art Basel last year. So- So... what got me into crypto was 2017. Oh, wow. You're an early investor then. Well, I wouldn't say early investor.
10:32
I got, um, I was intrigued by the technology. Hmm. My brother was, um, you know, he was playing with his Black Ops friends, and they just heard Bitcoin over the, the comms, right? Right.
10:42
And then I started doing some research into Bitcoin, and strangely, around that time is when Bitcoin had its spike from $200 to 20K. Right.
10:50
So I just started, like, researching and seeing what is this asset, what is this commodity, what is even this thing going on. Yeah. And, um, that just went me...
11:00
I just went head, just head first into learning business, learning, um, the financial sector, trying to, like, just, um, immense all this information, all this knowledge that I can.
11:11
And, um, yeah, that's pretty much what the Bitcoin bug did for me. It just got me, um, super passionate about pretty much owning your own, controlling your own finances.
11:23
And, um- Is that the reason you got into Bitcoin originally, is for, like, that financial freedom- Yeah. Uh-... controlling your finances? The, you, you knew the banks, what they were doing, and you didn't like that?
11:32
Yeah, so it was able to, um, what Bitcoin was able to do was able to get you to your wealth exponentially. Hmm. So you didn't have to do that, um, 9:00 to 5:00, the 40-year, I mean, in retirement plan. Right.
11:43
So if you invest in crypto, in Bitcoin, you're able to, um, hyper-jump those, those years. Right. So, um, and that's what I f- I feel like it's been doing so far.
11:53
It's been excelling, um, basically my career choices and my career paths.
11:58
If I was to stick at a regular, you know, 9:00 to 5:00 instead of chasing and being what I'm passionate for, I'm able to actually, um-Forge these paths and help, you know, bring the industry forward.
12:10
I feel like that's what we're doing. I love that. I love that. So when I met you, you're, you know, you're part of the XRP community.
12:16
You introduced me to a lot of XRPers, and which I'm very grateful for, 'cause that's one of the blockchains I've never really spent a lot of time in. Which is sad, because I know they've been around for a minute.
12:26
They're actually... XRP came out before Ethereum, I learned just the other day. Yeah. I think 2013, I believe. And then Ethereum was 2015, I believe. Mm-hmm. So two years after.
12:36
So- And the founders even know each other, supposedly. Um. Right. I heard about that... Brad and Vitalik. Um. Mm-hmm... they all... You know, I've heard they've all, like, had a couch, born on a couch at one point.
12:45
Oh, wow. Right? Okay. Cool. So it's, it's really, it's really like that. Um, um. Yeah. And, and a little bit about XRP. When I was doing- Mm... when I was doing research in the private sector- Yeah...
12:53
um, and doing the pitches for Sibber- Mm-hmm. Right... um, there was a lot of, um, concepts on Ethereum, you know, distributed ledger, Hedera.
13:00
And, um, one thing that wasn't really being, you know, researched upon was XRP. And then that just made me, um, like, realize, like, that this is...
13:09
There's actually, like, some more that meets the eye with this technology, and not all of us have all the answers.
13:15
So that's why we're here, you know, pretty much conceptualizing and just trying our very best to introduce this technology and provide use cases. Mm.
13:24
So now that the technology has matured and there's clarity, um, and there's regulations coming out, I feel like XRP is getting its, um, appropriate time and, you know, the shining light that it deserves, bro.
13:37
[laughs] Honestly. Uh, I don't know, 'cause, uh, if you guys read, bro, like in 2015- Mm... the Treasury themselves did, um, they mentioned that XRP is a currency. Right.
13:46
And then the Department of Treasury, the SEC, is the one that labeled them a security. So it was just, um, with terms and definitions, it was, what's kinda what got me kind of boggled. So words do matter,
13:59
and, um, that's what we're here trying to find in real time, these words, so we can work with each other. Yeah. No, I absolutely love that. And, um, yeah, I think XRP is very underrated- Super...
14:12
one of these blockchains. And whi- which is kind of sad, because it's been around forever, even before Ethereum. And so just to think, um, what got you originally into XRP? What made you, like, really invest? Okay.
14:26
And would you consider yourself an XRP maxi? Well, I'm a money maxi. Oh. So- Even better. [laughs] And what made me invest into XRP is because I come from the cannabis sector. So I'm from DC. I was doing- Yeah...
14:38
um, I was helping, you know, change the stigma on that a little bit. Right. 'Cause forgot to mention, um- Mm. Yes... cannabis and blockchain both became prominent in 2017. That's when it got the people's interest. Right.
14:50
So I was trying to use this technology to change the stigma on, on cannabis- Okay... because there was, there was a heavy stigma on it. Yeah. And with that being said, um, I was just... I'm a guy about compliance, right?
15:02
Right. So bas- being based off DC, I have to follow the strict rules so I can, you know, participate. Right. Same thing with crypto. Um, we already know the connotations that it got, um, Silk Road, et cetera, et cetera.
15:12
Mm-hmm. So XRP was the only blockchain that I was seeing, while everybody else was saying, you know, no governments, um, you know.
15:20
But these were the only ones trying to actually work with the powers to be and make, you know, opportunities for us to actually do business. 'Cause at the end of the day, you still have to do business. You can't be,
15:30
um, all chaotic and, and rev- a revolutionist when you, you still have to do business at the end of the day.
15:36
And that's what Brad is really good at, you know, displaying, providing utility to, to the ledger, and use cases, um, for XRP. Okay. So you love...
15:47
Where it sounds like to me, it's, it's more about utility, it's more about building, right? And you've been always about building, especially around community. When I met you, you introduced me to your community on XRP.
16:01
We started doing X Spaces together. One thing kind of led to another and, you know, we became business partners. And through that interaction, I was able to really get close to, to you and your mission and your vision.
16:15
And so with just blockchain technology as a whole, is this, like, the final frontier in a lot of ways when it comes to being a money maxi, when it comes to generational wealth? Like, for you. Yeah. This- In your opinion.
16:29
Yeah. 'Cause, um, I'm not trying to glorify systems here. Um- Right... I believe that this is the last s- thing that you need to complete. Yeah, like you said, yeah, abs- 100%. [laughs] Um, honestly, bro.
16:40
So you're gonna retire. [laughs] I'm gonna... It's, what they're saying is either you're gonna get acquired and retire- Mm-hmm... or you're gonna see this through. Right.
16:47
So I believe that I'm seeing it through, because at the end of the day, um, I'm... You just came onto the team. Right. People are finding themselves.
16:55
And once we have the right team, we're gonna, it's gonna conceptualize and it's... That's it. So I feel like we're almost there. 2026 is a breaking point. Yeah. So. Yeah.
17:06
Quick follow-up question on just crypto, blockchain in general. I just thought about it. So a lot of people write off crypto as a scam, right?
17:14
And a lot of people, uh, they, they just dismiss it when you first talk about it. How do you overcome those people? What do you say to them? Okay. Um, well, I tell them that there's always more than meets the eye.
17:24
You gotta get involved, right? Mm-hmm. Um, at the end of the day, you're just seeing it from, um, from a, what is it? Uh, from a one perspective, you're... So get involved.
17:34
And what I like to say is we actually have use cases, right? So an example is communication, and that's one thing I... You always give it a anecdotal kind of point of view, right?
17:42
So for me, is my Snapchat, my Telegrams, those things have gotten, you know, canceled or banned. Oh, wow. So therefore, if you're tired of just
17:52
policies changing at a whim and you wanna have some sort of control- Right... um, that's why I embrace this technology, because it offers you control of your data, of your time, and that's it.
18:04
You're just getting control back to your own hands. Would control be another good word for freedom? Freedom, yes. Okay. Liberty, freedom.Pursuit of happiness Pursuit of happiness. [laughs] That's what we're doing.
18:15
We're cryp- Doesn't crypto give you that? Sounds very American. [laughs] I mean, I mean, sir, isn't, isn't crypto an American thing? I think so. Right. Did it start in, in America? I don't... Honestly, I don't know.
18:24
Where, where did crypto- Cryptoography. Cryptography... start from? Where did Bitcoin... I thought Bitcoin, Satoshi, wasn't that in Japan? I think- [laughs] I do not think. It's just 'cause it sounds, it sounds Japanese.
18:33
I don't know. Okay. All right. [laughs] But I think that's an American product, bro. I don't know, man. I got, I got, we gotta be- Okay. No, that's a good question. I'll ask Grok later. Yeah, we gotta... Yeah.
18:40
Um, [laughs] and in speaking, uh, about Grok AI, um, I feel like AI's gotten to this point where it's starting to integrate more within blockchain technology. Yep.
18:51
And, and what do you see the future, let's say, with AI and, and crypto? Like, where, where do you think it's gonna go? Um, basically making the best pathways for you to make money, man. Arbitrage. Yep. Passive income.
19:02
Yep. I think that's where we're heading towards. Um, you know- That's huge... providing good systems and able to automate those. That's huge. I think that's what blockchain and AI does for you. I love that. I love that.
19:15
So as an XRPer, Money Maxi, you know, what have you been building in the space since 2017, right, or 2018?
19:22
Well, well, I've been just pretty much, you know, accumulating my bag, getting my- myself more versed into the technology- Okay... but I've just been part of TXRP. Ooh. Um, so this is- Tell me about this.
19:32
Yeah, so- What's TXRP? [laughs] TXRP is the wallet-to-wallet communication. Okay. It offers decentralization- Yeah... comms on the ledger. So think about- On the XRP ledger, right... on XRPL. Okay, okay.
19:41
So think about it as- XRPL, okay... Discord, Telegram, but with wallet capabilities, and the fact that we don't data mine. Right. So, um- That's huge...
19:49
yeah, so that's pretty much what I'm super passionate about at the time being right now. Um, we're just trying to provide a use case and utility for communities- Mm... so they can, you know, just keep building.
19:59
That's honestly what we think is fragmented in the space. There's not a platform that l- can s- unify Web3. Right. Um, so, so pretty much all these platforms are, are out right now are pretty much to, just to highlight,
20:13
like, money and et cetera, but it's not really about community building. Um, I think community building is more important, and then the money is a byproduct.
20:21
So people are forgetting that, um, the, we already solved the, the, the, the money issues coded, right? Right. So now it's all about the, what can you do with this code? What can you build with it?
20:32
And instead of using money as a driver, it shouldn't be the driver anymore. It should be a community part. Right.
20:38
So that's what, um, I think that is, you know, we're, we're here witnessing right now, honestly, is people's changing the way that they do business from a community standpoint versus, uh, like, a production. Right.
20:51
I see that. I definitely see that. Um, I've always seen... Like, when I first got into crypto, it wasn't about money.
20:59
Obviously, you know, I was scammed in the past, and I've always tried to understand crypto a little more because I'm like, "How do I not get scammed anymore? How do I not get my wallet dr..."
21:09
you know, like, the whole security thing, right? And, like, meeting communities on there that really cared about you. But in the end, like, we have to think about
21:18
what is crypto as this utility, and what problem is it solving, right? Like, we're problem solvers at the end of the day, and it's w- it's not that we're working for our bags.
21:29
It's more of, like, what problems are we solving, not how much money we can make. Right. We can make the amount, as much money in the world, but at the end of the day, are we actually solving people's problems?
21:39
Yeah, I mean, an example that I got into it was peer-to-peer. Mm-hmm. Remember peer-to-peer transactions? Right. So at the end of the day, you wanna elim- eliminate borders, right? So- Well, with TXRP, right?
21:48
The peer-to-peer. Well, with TXRP or just in general, the technology. Right. You know, blockchain, crypto is peer-to-peer. Peer-to-peer.
21:55
So at the end of the day, you wanna eliminate borders so you don't have to have all these sanctions when you're in- The middleman, essentially. Yes. Take out the middleman. Take out the middleman.
22:02
That's, that's exactly what this technology is about, taking out the middleman and embracing yourself, you investing in yourself. Right. Showcasing yourself because now you have the technology that can support you.
22:11
Right. Before, you needed somebody to offer you these services. Now, you can offer it yourself. So it sounds like you're really big into technology. Yeah, well- [laughs]...
22:20
I'm big on, uh, on yourself, on being authentic, and- Okay. Sure... if this technology helps you embrace that, then yeah- Yeah... it, it's a way to magnify it because- Mm.
22:29
Okay, I guess, yeah, uh, Elon Musk, what is, what is X? Uh, X is a number one news outlet. Yes. So that's- But essentially a social media platform, too. So that's- Yeah...
22:38
I guess in that sense, communication-wise, I'm passionate about that aspect of that technology. Definitely. Yeah. Community and communications. Community, communications. I love that. I love that.
22:49
So have you thought, since you've been in crypto for a while now, um, it's helped you in your communications? Yeah, honestly, it has. Um- How, how so? Explain. Um, well- [laughs]...
23:00
actually learning words, because words do matter. Words are hard. [laughs] Hard... Words are hard. And also, you gotta use the right words to convey what you're trying to say. Mm-hmm. And you have to write, write papers.
23:12
You have to write essays. You have to make posts. Yep. And a lot of these things, you have to read what you're, what you're writing. Right. And you have to make sure that they're, it fits the context.
23:23
The con- Yeah, the content fits the context. There you go. Yep, that makes sense. [laughs] Yeah. I'm tracking. [laughs] Yeah, yeah. See, there you go. Yeah. So it sounds like you're a, um, a lifelong learner, then.
23:35
Aren't we all, man? That's, that's why we're here. Well, we try to be, anyway. Not, I don't wanna say everyone is. That's very generalized. We don't wanna generalize. Everyone's their own person.
23:43
But I think we're put on this earth to be lifelong learners, and I think crypto, this type of technology, has really helped us or aided us in becoming a better version of ourself. Remember, um, the technology
23:57
offers accountability, transparency- Mm... and it's immutable. So once you put it in there, it can't be changed unless you off- Yeah, that's the whole point. It's immutable, so. Right.
24:07
Immutable and, like, it doesn't change. It doesn't change. Like, you can't change it. Yeah, it's there. Like, once it's on the blockchain, it's- It's on there... it's done. It's done. You can't, you can't revise it.
24:14
You can't go back and edit. No, you can't- It's done... it, like, erase it. It's on there. That's the whole thing. You can't even erase it. That's the, that's the beautiful, that's the beauty about blockchain.
24:21
So 100 years from now, I'll be able to- It'll be there... see the same project. Yes. It'll be there. It'll be there. It'll be there. Wow. It's immutable, bro. That's the- Immutable. Okay, that's what immutable means.
24:27
Okay. That's, that's the whole purpose of the ledger, man. Okay. That's why we love it. Supposed to be long-lasting.And, um, decentralized, et cetera, all the good stuff. And, and you said transparency earlier. Mm-hmm.
24:38
So a lot of people like that, that word transparency, right? Because to me that sh- that shows us that you are open- Yeah... and you have integrity. Yep. And you are willing to show your books essentially, right? Yeah.
24:55
Show- Yeah, like you know how people like, "Oh, show me the..." Like, get audited, I'm like, "Yo, w- we love to get audited here."
25:00
Um, also too, um, I like to say we're the same person on and off the screen, so we're authentic, um, thick and through. So at the end of the day, um, I think this is the new wave, man.
25:13
Authenticity is- Wait, wait, okay, so do you feel like, um, crypto has made you more of an au- authentic person? Yeah, because, um, I have to basically tell you the transparency. I'm like, "Hey, this, I'm...
25:26
Have you seen it right here? This is where you look." Mm-hmm. Uh, and, and more accountable. Right. So- Accountability. Yeah, and, and that's- That's huge. That's big value...
25:34
and that's aligns with maturity, so at the end of the day- Mm... um, yeah, because we're here dealing... At the end of the day, we're here talking about finances. So- We are...
25:41
you have to be accountable and mature and know what you're putting your time and your resources to. So it's, it's more... How I like to say this?
25:51
It's, there's a lot more harmony going on right now with crypto when you're, when you're here trying to basically forge a new path. Right. Right.
25:58
No, I absolutely love that, and I think that's a, it's a good reminder about people just in general because not everyone is transparent though, you know? Remember, this is still a people thing.
26:10
You still gotta talk to people at the end of the day. I know. I know. I know. People are still against talking to people. You still have to use those muscles and, um, shake hands and show teeth, man. That's true.
26:19
That's true. But, like, I've met a lot of people in crypto online, and they're not as mature as you. They're not as transparent as you. You know, we deal with bad actors all the time.
26:30
Like you said, those are online though. True. So that's, that's the thing. Um, there's bad actors online. I think we all know about the internet trolls. Right.
26:38
But what, what keeps all those people away, like, uh, for me coming back onto the space, is when I come to these IRL events- Mm... and I meet genuine people like yourself- Yeah... and Decentral Bros. Right.
26:50
Um, that just ins- keeps inspiring me to keep coming back and putting out good content and, um, honestly, just, just be available for anybody that needs help.
27:00
That's what, you know, we're here for, to help each other out grow. Love that. I love that, yeah. So sounds like you're a community builder. Yeah. I mean, um, we're trying here. [laughs] We're trying here. It's,
27:15
like, like we said, um- Yeah... we have friends, we have acquaintances, but we're trying to form a community around these things. Right. Right. 'Cause I'm good at making friends, but now I'm trying to build a community.
27:25
Well, you're trying to [laughs] help people understand, hey, if you work together, we could all make money, we could all solve the problems together that we keep running up against.
27:35
And a big thing I have found in crypto is a lot of people do have money problems. A lot of people have time problems. A lot of people have energy, you know? So it's like, or exposure problems.
27:45
That's one of the reasons I've been in crypto for so long. Mm. Certain founders, certain developers don't know how to share what they have to their audience in a way that the audience can understand them, right?
27:55
Because they're at such a high intellect, right, high level. They're, they're dealing with codes all the time, right? They're developers, right?
28:01
So it's like having us is a necessity, right, as marketers, as promoters with these, you know, very high, um, I guess in a way, high intellect, uh, developers. So, um, in saying that though, um, how, how do you...
28:17
And, and we, we, we all kind of need each other at the end of the day. We all have a set of skills- Yep... essentially, and everyone's different in their skill stack. So I guess where do you kind of line up?
28:26
Because I know you're w- you're, you're learning code currently. You're doing a boot camp with Tex RP, with Will. Big shout-out to Will, by the way. What's up, Will?
28:34
[laughs] He was on 111 a few weeks ago talking about his story. And, um, and share with me maybe a little more about this boot camp. It was, it was an eight-week program with Tex RP. Yeah.
28:46
Um, tell me more about what you've learned on kind of just the developer end of things and s- seeing where, like, vibe coding goes with AI and, and all that, you know? Okay. So- I wanna hear that, yeah...
28:56
yeah, so Will Moreno, um, shout-out to Will Moreno, bro, founder of Tex RP. Um, he offered, uh, the Hacker House, um, for eight weeks. Yeah.
29:05
And basically offered me an ambassador role, and I was able to shadow him to see how he goes about, you know, conceptualizing and bringing out, you know, dev- um, building his utility. Yeah.
29:15
Um, what I've learned about, um, you know, just shadowing him, and, and you have to have a routine. There's a- Mm... there's a routine. There's a format. And, um- Mm...
29:24
once you stick to this format, at the end of that, of, of that task, you're gonna get your, the desired result that you were aiming for. So one thing about AI that I learned is, um, it's all about prompting. Mm.
29:38
So if you're able to basically use the right words to, to basically specify what you're trying to do, um, AI is, like, the best, bro. It comes when it...
29:49
Basically on getting it off the s- floor, like, you know, a kickstart. You, everyone needs a kickstart, right? Right. So that's what AI is, is for, as a kickstarter. Right.
29:56
But if you need that extra push, you still need a team of developers to give you that final audit and that okay to make everything smoothly.
30:02
Unfortunately, you know, AI can only get you so far, but you still need developers. Right. It's a tool. Yeah, it's a tool. AI is always a tool. It is a tool. Mm-hmm.
30:09
So, um, yeah- [laughs] Um, Will basically is showcasing how to use all these powerful tools. Mm. Um, giving me tips and tricks.
30:17
And, um, yeah, super grateful for having Will as a m- mentor and super happy that I'm an ambassador for Tex RP, and I believe you're an ambassador too, sir. I am. So, um- I am. Big believer...
30:27
we're, we're on the gems right here, man. [laughs] Other than that, I- Just g- got one of the Superpack NFTs, you know? So- Oh, you did. You did, man. I did. I did. Shout out to you, bro.
30:35
Um- Yeah, Will said there's an airdrop coming from the NFT, so I was like, "Yes, score"I'm excited. [laughs] Uh, I don't know. I guess- Let's go...
30:43
I guess, um, yeah, being, being with, being with Will and learning that- Yeah... it's still a people's business. We're doing a startup, right? It's a- Right... small business, so it's about you have to be agile, right?
30:53
You have to wear a lot of hats. Right. And, um, we're all doing our very best, and honestly trying and doing your best each and every day, you will get the desired results that you want. Mm. Um, instead of just...
31:07
Well, like he like to say, it's all about execution. Right. So, um, as long as we execute something, a task a day, we're gonna get to the desired result. I love that. I love that. Yeah. Yeah, you need action.
31:17
That's, it's literally about action. Right? You c- you can't just keep talking about it. No. You gotta follow through. But that's what- If you say you're gonna do something, you gotta do it.
31:26
[laughs] Let your yes be yes and your nos be nos. There you go. Don't make promises. We don't make promises here. No, I know. So. Yeah. No promises. I love that.
31:33
So, um, what are some, like, key takeaways from this boot camp? Because you just finished it, right? Yeah. I'll- With Will... I'm on my last week, so key takeaway- Oh, you're last week, okay...
31:41
bro, it is honestly, man, follow a format. Have a format. Um- Yeah... keep God first. Okay. Um, Will is heavily on, you know, he's a Catholic, heavy on being- Oh... a Christian, so. Beautiful. I love that.
31:54
He's a God-fearing man, and so are we. Mm. So therefore, um, those are some things I'm taking away. Um, always be a student. Um, you know, and at the end of the day, um, seek God for counsel. What else did he offer?
32:09
Um, use AI to help you conceptualize. Right. And at the end of the day, it's always great to have a team. Mm. And that's what we've been building so far.
32:16
So in the eight weeks, we've, I believe we've gotten five developers. We've gotten crypto fam, a media team, and, um, we're able to just convey our thoughts and... Well, it's, it's a, it's a surreal opportunity.
32:28
I don't think I can highlight that enough, man. Right. It sounds surreal. Yeah. And so what's next for Asi Nasi? After Ethereum or Eat Denver, and then this last week of, uh- Okay...
32:41
XRP, what's, what's next for, uh, Asi Nasi? Well, we got Vegas still coming up, you know? In like two months. [laughs] Just in two months. Okay. So I'm looking forward to that. I know.
32:49
But at the end of the day, I'm gonna, I'm gonna move back to Virginia, my home base. Okay. Okay. Of course, of course. Cool. And I'm trying to, you know, we're here trying to formulate a DAO. Right.
32:57
Trying to conceptualize one and see how we can go about it. That's right. So that's- That's why we're here, at Eat Denver, too... that's why we're here, to learn more about DAOs. Structure Sport DAO, yeah. Yes, sir.
33:05
And I see that that's what we're gonna be doing the next two months, hounding in and setting it up. I think we got all the team players. We just need to pull the trigger, bro. Just need to pull the trigger.
33:16
And for those who don't know what a DAO is, would you mind sharing with everyone- Yeah... a little bit about how DAOs work, the structure of DAOs, and how you plan to implement your DAO? Yeah.
33:27
So a DAO is a decentralized autonomous organization. Mm-hmm. And it's just, what I see it is, it's a way that you can do business modularly, right?
33:34
So you have different communities, different projects, different businesses coming together to form this greater organization, right? Yeah. So it can provide services or goods.
33:44
And when it comes to basically governance or, um... So governance is, it's a little bit taboo, right? Why's that?
33:53
Because governance is, you have to define governance, so everybody thinks they can define it, but no one actually executes it or, um, monitors it, right? Right.
34:01
So I believe that this technology is able to fully embrace governance. Mm. 'Cause governance, even today, is, it's not... Everyone defines it.
34:11
Everyone tells you what governance is, how you go about it, how you get people together, but no one tells you how to execute it or how to monitor it, and that's why
34:20
this technology right here is, is showcasing what those, what that means. Um, so. Got you. Would you mind defining your version of governance? Yeah.
34:27
Um, so my version of governance is basically having, uh, like a meeting of the minds, so having, uh, having initiatives and programs that will... Having initiatives that will cater towards your programs.
34:40
That's what I think governance is. Mm. Um, so you don't have to be relying on others. You're self-reliant, 'cause you have your own models and systems. Right. So it's like you're self-sustaining.
34:52
So, um- That would be nice... so with governance, um, you know, you got the defining, you got the implementation, you got the execution.
34:58
So I believe what we're trying to do is we're trying to have who are the executors, who are the, the ones that define it, and who are the ones that are gonna be monitoring it.
35:05
And, um, that's why, like I say, it's marketing is a way that you can monitor, you know, governance, what's, what's going on within the community. Yeah.
35:12
So just think about everything as DAOs as ecosystems, and does it have everything in it to be self-sustaining? Mm. You know, do you have the onboarding, the off-boarding? Do you have the marketing?
35:22
Um, do you have products or services that you're providing? Um- Right... so do you have education, continuing education? Uh, it's, it's a ecosystem. I love that. I think that's- Yeah. And so back to your DAO now. Okay.
35:36
'Cause I got you off topic a little bit with governance. No, no, you're good. So- Let's go back to the DAO now. No, no. So, so what I'm trying to do is- Yeah...
35:40
I'm just trying to build a community so we can all basically come together and, um, offer services for other stakeholders in various small businesses. Okay.
35:48
So basically, we're a team of developers, a team of Web3 enthusiasts coming together, and we have a treasury that if you wanna...
35:54
Like, it's like we're using our treasury as a, a demonstration that we believe in what we're doing. So it's like- Right... we'll, we'll, we'll hire.
36:02
If you're willing to do business with us, we'll pay our devs out, and then we'll be, and we'll, we'll... We're so confident that the product that we're building, we're gonna get our ROI. Gotcha.
36:12
So it's all with contracts and everything. Yeah. Within the DAO itself. Within the DAO. The structure. Yes. Okay. Okay.
36:18
So the members, um, within the DAO will be able to apply for reasonable compensation and get work, et cetera. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. It's a, it's like- That, that's what we all kind of need at the end of the day, right?
36:28
Right. A lot of us. Like, you, you, you're part of a group, right? Yeah. Where all you guys are all trying to get, um, work together. Yeah. Right?
36:32
And then the people that are able to, you know, facilitate, do the work, they get hired. Right. But they gotta be part of the group- Right... to, to know that what service are you offering. Mm, I love that.
36:44
So it sounds very democratic.Hey, man, if that's what the code is saying, that's what it's saying, man. [laughs] I don't like to put labels on things. [inhales] That's fair. That's fair.
36:53
So- 'Cause I'm going more for sovereign. Sovereign, okay. I like that word, actually. Sovereign or having your own agency- Yeah... is another great word. Um, but also having this mindset of
37:09
working together and not by yourself, right? Yeah. Because you can achieve a lot more with a group that are all on the same page versus, "Oh, I can do it all by myself." No, that's why- You know?...
37:21
you join a DAO, so you can be part of a organization, be part of a team, and that- Right... are able to use what you have built already. Right.
37:29
Um, yeah, like I think you were saying, if you wanna go somewhere, um, fast, you go by yourself, but if you wanna go further, you go with a team. That's right.
37:35
And I think all of us are, you know, bide in time, good to mention that, you know, we do need a team to go to the next step. Um- I love that. I love that.
37:42
So, um, for those of you who don't know, ETHDenver is structured, uh, through Spork DAO, its own little DAO.
37:49
And so, um, I know, Nasi, part of your research, being at ETHDenver, is talking with other Spork DAO members- No doubt... and getting a little more insight, you know, into, I guess, your market research. Yep.
38:00
That's- I'm trying to see their, their model. I love the fact that to even attend this, um, conference, you had to get yourself, you had to become a member of the Spork DAO. That's right. So that was really awesome, bro.
38:10
Get some tokens, yeah. Get some tokens. And the whole experience has been amazing. Okay. Yeah, I'm just trying to, you know, implement that same experience for XRP. Love that. I love that. Yeah. So, um, are you...
38:22
Okay, so besides trying to find, do you know the, the people to, to find to do your research at the center itself or- No. That's why I have you, Crypto Fam. Okay. You're gonna- Perfect.
38:32
I'll, I'll have to get you in touch with Russell then later. Okay. I'll, I'll, I'll, um... He's part of the DAO, so- Awesome... he's one of the, um, one of the founding members, actually. So he's a very important guy.
38:41
I actually met him at the Futures Blockchain, uh, Conference last November, so. Okay. Okay. I interviewed him. But- How did that go? Uh, it was awesome. He's a really nice guy.
38:50
Yeah, and we were supposed to do a Space together right before. Oh, snap. But I got too busy, and I had to cancel last minute, and I felt bad about that, so... But it's all good. It, uh... He's still here.
38:59
He's gonna be here all week. He's got a booth actually set up right over to the right there. Okay. Okay. I'm not sure if he's there currently since it's still a bit early. The lights aren't even all on right now.
39:07
I'm not sure what's going [laughs] on at ETHDenver. But, uh, I do wanna start wrapping up, I guess, for our next interview- Oh... uh, pretty soon, in about 15 minutes.
39:15
But, um, to say all that, just a few more questions before we end our interview. And by the way, uh, I had a lo- lovely, lovely time with you. I think, uh- My first time, man. [laughs] It's off the script.
39:25
No script, bro. I'm sorry. I, I will be better- I'm always off script. You know that. Uh, that, that's how you're authentic, you know? Oh, you're right, bro. My bad, man. I, I- You can't be like that.
39:32
You can't memorize everything. Right. That's boring, bro. This is all improv, improv, right? Okay, okay, okay, okay. This is how we do it, to get the crowd going, right? So tell me a little bit about [laughs]
39:44
um, your future. What, what...
39:45
Besides this whole DAO thing, is that gonna consume you in the next, like, what, eight to 10 weeks, or is there anything on the horizon with your, let's say, adventure within crypto or the, the communities that you're meeting, even, even our relationship with Crypto Fam Radio?
40:00
I know we have this whole teardrop thing, you know, Airbnb on wheels- Bro... which kinda got us- Yeah... connected in the first place, you know? So I, I think that's how we started a, an actual relationship- Bro...
40:12
a rapport with each other a- in, in Art Basel in Miami 'cause you were just so jazzed about my little teardrop. So I, and I kinda wanna touch on that a little bit, you know- Okay...
40:21
because that's kinda how we got- Okay... together, you know? So- Well, you wanna talk about how we met then, man, 'cause at the end of the day- Sure, let's do that. Okay.
40:27
Let's, you know, start from the beginning to the end, full circle. Let's go. [laughs] All right, all right. Awesome, man. So as you, as you can see, man, uh, Crypto Fam is really well-spoken, right?
40:35
So I've heard him on Space, of course, right? Thank you. I appreciate that. And I went to DGJoint's, um, house. That's right. And I, I- Shout out, DG... shout out to DG.
40:43
[laughs] And then I saw Crypto Fam in there just... You know, I heard his voice. [laughs] And I was like, "Yo, is this the guy?" I was like, "Bro, I'm actually, like, you know, actually really fond of you, bro.
40:51
I like what you're doing. I like what you got going on here." Aw. You know, you're called The Digital Nomad. He was embracing that experience of- Mm... you know, being online and being a nomad, so The Digital Nomad.
41:01
Right. And, um, the fact that, um, he was on a teardrop, uh, he was pretty much, you know, living the dream that I wanted. I was always trying to. Uh, seen on YouTube people, you know, doing, um, the camper lifestyle.
41:11
Mm-hmm. And, um, you were excelling in it, so he had sponsors and everything, man. Yeah. This guy knew what he was doing. Mm.
41:17
So, um, yeah, that's pretty much, we started building a rapport, um, got super inspired on the teardrop, and we started, you know, conceptualizing some business ideas that we can offer.
41:27
And, um, now I believe this is a perfect opportunity so we can, you know, showcase this with our DAO. Maybe this can be an initial concept- Yeah... that we're trying to bring forth. I like that.
41:36
So th- that's, that's the whole purpose of a DAO, is to put all these initiatives out there, so then we can make- Mm... programs that will carry out these initiatives. Right.
41:44
So we all have good ideas here, so it's all about getting community to vote upon them so we can tackle them, right? Right. Right. That's the whole purpose of having- I know... a DAO, man, so. I love that.
41:54
Yeah, we all have ideas. It's just, you know, we don't always implement them. We don't- Yeah... always follow through. There's a lot of people that just talk- B- but see, this-... right, but never do...
42:02
see, this a thing, a lot of people, it's, you know, they're all missing something, either the coding, the resources, right? Mm. And I believe that a s- a good idea is still a good idea- Right...
42:09
it just needs to be heard. So I believe a DAO will basically offer you the opportunity to showcase your ideas. Right. And if there's good traction, if you ha- it will get funding. Right. Yeah. The right idea- Yep...
42:22
will go a long way. But just not the idea, the implementation, the strategy, the follow through, the, the teamwork. That's it. D- makes the dream work. You know? It, that, that's right. That's right.
42:33
So no, I'm excited for that of, um, that little endeavor that we have. That, that's gonna be leading up to the next event, and I think we should just touch on that a- Okay...
42:43
little bit since we're at a IRL event, and since we're so bullish on IRL events in general. What's the next event that you see us at, and, uh, what do you hope to achieve at that next event?
42:55
Okay, so-Just like Eat Denver, man, we're gonna be at XRP Vegas. It's gonna be this exact same kind of flow. We're gonna have podcasts. We're gonna hopefully have more people online and sign up for our DAO.
43:06
Hopefully have a DAO already, concept already there so we can start signing up members. That's my goal. Gotcha. Gotcha. I love that. I love that. And I know it'll be my first XRP event- Oh...
43:17
as well, so- Actually, wait, you went to one yesterday. What do you mean? Oh, yeah. That, okay, okay, or I should say XRP- Conference... conference. Okay, okay. Conference. It'll be my first XRP conference. Okay.
43:27
Yeah, technically I did go to an event last night. That was amazing. That was lit, at an arcade. Bro. Yeah, that was fun. Bro, it was great, bro. [laughs] At no expense, uh, held, bro. At all. And the swag was- Bro...
43:36
oh, man. That swag was lit. You're actually wearing one of the swag. I'm actually walking around. I got my Asi Nasi, my name embroidered. You got it embroidered even. Oh, man. That's absurd. I'm jealous. I'm jealous.
43:46
Yeah, they totally can see that. But yeah, um, anyway, yeah, let's just kinda wrap up.
43:51
Anything else that we, uh, left out, that we didn't touch on in dealing with you as, as just this incredible person that has a vision? Yeah. Um, well, I guess what...
44:04
You know, I didn't mention that, you know, family values and virtues- Mm... are really important to me is because I'm a father of two precious girls. Yeah.
44:11
At the end of the day, I always have to, you know, think for them- Yeah... and put them, and, and think about the legacy, so. Yeah.
44:17
Uh, you can always count on, you know, girl dads, I'd like to say, 'cause, you know, they're, they're vicious.
44:21
And, um, yeah, you can just expect hopefully to make this more kid friendly, 'cause my goal is to bring kids here, honestly. Make this- Mm...
44:29
more family orientated, 'cause I'm a family man at the end of the day, and I do miss my kids, so. Love that. I love that. It's always good. Family is so important. Yep. You know, we need to highlight them. You do.
44:39
So- Embrace them and- You need, you need- Mm-hmm... the whole purpose of this is for your family. You're doing all this for your family. You know? That's right. Generational wealth, right? Yep.
44:47
Your family- That's, that's what they talk about, right? That's what they talk about. [laughs] All right. That's what they say, man. I'm just... Remember what you're here for, guys. Uh- I know...
44:55
you're here to, you know, s- be a good person. I always like to say- Mm-hmm... uh, everyone's here for the money at the end of the day, those will leave.
45:02
But if you're here to build and, you know, spread the good message, then we want you. That's right. And, and like I mentioned to you before, it shouldn't be about the money. It should be solving a problem. Thank you.
45:11
Right? The money comes. You just gotta keep solving problems and the money will come. That's, that's how it's always worked, and that's how it's, you know, gonna be in the future, you know? Bro.
45:19
With crypto and every- everything, you know? With blockchain technology in itself. Well, thank you so much for helping me- [laughs]... solve my problem, man. I always- Of course...
45:26
need help trying to convey my thoughts out, and- Mm... that's why you're perfect at it, bro. You're a journalist, man, so people- I am... you should expand on that a little bit, man, 'cause- [laughs]...
45:33
you don't give yourself enough credit. This is my interview, so. Hey, man, I just got- This is your interview. Hey, man. [laughs] But I appreciate you. I do. I do. But thank you so much for your time, Asi Nasi.
45:41
It's so good to have you. And, uh, yeah, we'll, uh, we'll see you again next time, so. Shake your hands, bro. No. Thank you, bro. [laughs] Crypto-
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